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Clarence Fisher: On today's episode... The real key to becoming to losing a hundred pounds or more and keeping it off is creating an entire, creating a new identity. Because we act, human beings act in accordance to who they believe they are. We cannot do that. So if we're running around thinking we're fat, and we're running around thinking we're lazy and we're losers, and we're all of these things, then we act in accordance to that.

Clarence Fisher: Creating new habits is hard. Breaking bad habits even harder. At times, both seem downright impossible. We can usually get something done or avoid it for a day or maybe a week, but a month, a season, a year, forget about it. What's up? It's Clarence "Big Juice" Fisher. Welcome to 100 Pound Party. Listen, I've bred forced my way, white knuckled my way to make things happen all the way up until now. But after listening to this episode, after I share with you what I have found out, you're going to be able to "slight right" your way to a new success that you can only dream of. Listen, seriously, any habit you want to create, you can start today, right after you finish listening. If you wanna break a bad habit, you can do that right after listening to this episode. What I'm about to tell you has changed my life, and I've only been doing it for a couple of weeks. I lost 111 pounds without what I'm about to share with you. So it's gonna be a much easier time for me now, and I can't wait to share it with you.

Intro: Welcome to the 100 Pound Party Podcast with Big Juice, uncovering weight loss tips, tools and strategies used by everyday people to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good.

Clarence Fisher: Okay, we are back. And again, thanks for showing back up, , uh, revisiting the party. Hey, listen, I think, do you believe in things just kind of like happening, like nothing happens for, like, everything happens for a reason. I do. I really do. You know that I believe in slight right and I thought that I kind of coined that term slight right? And at least in the way that, at least in the way that we do it, where you think of something that you want to do and you just do the smallest piece that you can. So when I wanted to run a 5k, I mean, what's the smallest thing I could do? Or when I wanted to lose weight? Let's take it back to that. What's the smallest thing I could do? Well, I could get up out of the bed and the next day I can get up out of the bed and I can go to the porch.

Clarence Fisher: I can walk outside and the next day walk to the end of the driveway. I won't go back through it, but you can go to episode one and you can hear how I started doing that and how I came up with what this term called slight right, right?Well, as I am doing the research for this podcast and trying to figure out ways to further my success, I run across this book and this book is called Tiny Habits, and I thought, Okay, that sounds a bit familiar, It's by this Dr. BJ Fog, and he wrote a book called Tiny Habits. Make sure that I got his name right. Did I get his name right? Nah, make sure, Make sure, Where's your name? Yeah. BJ Fog. F O G G. And, uh, he wrote this book called Tiny Habits, which I am reading right now and I feel kind of bad, I haven't finished the book yet, but I wanted to get this out to you because as I was reading it, I thought, Man, this is like slight rights, but he calls it Tiny Habits.

Clarence Fisher: So I guess I was onto something that he was already on and has already put a book out and and, uh, built this entire program over, and I'm recommending it right now. Hopefully we can get him on the podcast at some point because he also has coaches and stuff like that. And I think I'm going to get certified in the Tiny Habits structure because I mean, there's a little bit that we do differently, probably enough to where I can still stick with the whole slight right theme, but it's really close to tiny habits. So I wanna share this with you in how to create a new habit very, very quickly, because I mean, for me, as far as slight right goes was just decide what you want to do and then, and then break it down to the exact, to the smallest little piece that you could do and then start creating that habit.

Clarence Fisher: But the way that he's done it, and I'm sure through tons of research, is he's broken it down to three parts. And that's what I'm gonna share with you today. It's gonna be super quick. It's gonna be a short podcast today. So number one is figure out what, number one, figure out what you wanna do, but then you want to anchor the habit, the habit that you want to create. You want to anchor that moment to an existing routine in your life, okay? For him, he was like, Hey, I want to get stronger. This, here's an example. I want to get stronger. So every time I pee or use the restroom afterwards, I'll drop down, do two pushups, wash my hands, and then I will celebrate. No, he says, I will drop down, do pushup, do two pushups, then celebrate, then he'll wash his hands and go about his day.

Clarence Fisher: So what he's done, he's anchored the two pushups to peeing, which something that happens every single day. So that's one thing you have to look out for. You wanna anchor it to something that you're going to do anyway, like whatever the habit is. And so I started trying, I started trying that. I was like, Hey, okay, I can do that. I want to get stronger after I pee, I'll do two pushups. And here is the thing though that he adds, is you have to celebrate afterwards. And it sounds really hokey, but there's something to it. The celebration makes you want to feel that dopamine hit again. So go to the bathroom, do two pushups, uh, celebrate, and to celebrate could be anything. It could be raising your hand in the air or pumping like yes, like Serena Williams does. It could just be a feeling, a feeling of this is what I do now.

Clarence Fisher: A feeling of, oh man, I'm getting strong. Hey, or, uh, you know, a feeling of just accomplishment or whatever. So it could be a feeling, it could be a thumbs up, it could be as much, as much as you wanna celebrate, celebrate, and you have to celebrate. So the three steps are after I will, I will do this, then I celebrate. And so you figure it out for me. Also, I kind of do some habit stacking because of what I read in Atomic Habits and because Atomic Habits, they have what's called a keystone habit, and that's gonna be your anchor. So for me, I was doing, after I pee, I will go drink 20 ounces of water, and that's how I was able to drink a gallon of water a day. And that has helped me with my weight loss. So you pee, you know, you got some water out, and then this is a whole bunch of peeing today, like everything is based on pee.

Clarence Fisher: So I mean that , you don't have to do that. Uh, that's just my life is pissy . So you, so after I pee, I would drink more water. So what I did was I kind of stacked this to where after ip I will do two pushups and then I will go drink 20 ounces of water, and then I would celebrate. I actually had a coach that I went through their little free, the tiny habits free thing. And you can do that too. You can go to, I'll put a link to their website. You can do the tiny habits kind of week long free thing where they'll walk you through this process, which I did. And my coach was like, you know, you should probably just have one habit. And I'm like, uh, you don't know me, I'm a boss. I'm doing 30 habits .

Clarence Fisher: So, uh, really I'm just habit stacking those two. Okay? So you can do that though. So what I want to share with you today, okay, so there's the anchor moment after I blank, this is what you want to do. After I blank, I will blank. That I will blank is a tiny behavior. This is what we call a slight right. The new habit that you want. But it scaled back to be super tiny and super easy. For instance, he gives this example of he didn't, he didn't like flossing his teeth. So he told himself he would only floss one tooth, you know, after, I can't remember what the anchor was, it was before bed or whatever, he would floss one tooth. And even with the pushups, the tiny part is he's only gonna do two pushups. Like you have to do at least the two pushups.

Clarence Fisher: If you want to do more, you can do more, but it's, Hey, I'm only gonna do two pushups. Hey, I'm only gonna floss one tooth. Well, you know what happens? You're, this is floss one tooth, but if you do floss one tooth, you can quit. And this reminded me so much of the slight right method of I'm only gonna walk on the treadmill five minutes, that's it. And I'm not gonna feel ashamed by anyone looking around or looking at me at Planet Fitness or around the block, or when I get to the track, I'm gonna walk five minutes and I'm going home. Some days I feel like I'm going to do more, so I'll walk a bit more, but I'm not obligated to that. I am winning, winning . Remember when that was a big deal with, uh, what was it, Charlie? She, So that's what I would say.

Clarence Fisher: After five minutes, everybody's looking at me and I'm walking out winning . You know what I'm saying? So that's the tiny behavior. What is the smallest piece that you can do and then celebrate? If you do that thing, if it's after dinner, you'll set up the coffee pot or after whatever habit you want to create, or whatever habit you want to break. If you're gonna break a habit, of course, you know, you want to make it, it make things difficult and inaccessible. But we have so many, we have so many good habits that we want to create, and we think that they're so, they're so huge. So what are the habits that you feel like you need to do or you need to have to be the new you, you know, what's your new identity? We talked about that before.

Clarence Fisher: Well, we haven't talked about it before, but if you've downloaded the, the motivational report that we used to give away in there, we talk about the real key to becoming to losing a hundred pounds or more and keeping it off is creating is creating a new identity. Because we act, human beings act in accordance to who they believe they are. We cannot do that. So if we're running around thinking we're fat, and we're running around thinking we're lazy and we're losers, and we're all of these things, then we act in accordance to that. We let the binges take over, like I talked about last week. You know, you just wanna get a good, uh, Jerry Springer moment looking at my life. And last week I told you about that. And so I'm getting back on it and using these tiny habits in order to keep going.

Clarence Fisher: So back on it, after I pee, I'm doing two pushups and I'm drinking 20 gallon, not 20 gallons, but 20 ounces of water. So what I want you to do, this is what I wanted to share with you, you, is I'm going to put a link down to the, this is how much I love this. I'm not getting paid for this or anything. I'm gonna put a link down to the Tiny Habits website. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, put the book down there and let's read this together. Go to 100poundparty.com/ask juice, or you can go to the website and just click the button and let me know if you've read it or leave me a message. Uh, and let's go through this, this month and finish this book. And I'm gonna see if I can get either, I would really love to get BJ Fogg on here at some point, and then also maybe one of their coaches or something that can coach us through this.

Clarence Fisher: But this is the simple thing that I wanted to share with you. Figure out what you wanna do after. I will, after I blank, I will blank. Then celebrate and then anchor that to something you already do. After I do this, I will do this then I will celebrate. Those are the tiny habits. Those are what we call slight rights, and you will win. Hey, if this helped you, do me a favor, like, uh, you know, subscribe to the podcast, share this on Facebook, Instagram, wherever you can. Hashtag slight right hashtag slight right? Tag me. All right? And share this with somebody. If you go to 100poundparty.com, you can also subscribe to our newsletter. I know that's a ton of stuff that I'm telling you to do. I'm only supposed to tell you one thing but I'll get better at this thing, okay? Until next week. Slight isn't sexy, but it works. I'll see you next week.

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Intro: On today's episode...

Clarence Fisher: Stupid, Stupid!!! Because you know, you know what I'm, you know what I'm, where I'm going, right?

Clarence Fisher: Why do we celebrate that way? Why does it always have to be food?

Clarence Fisher: And I know this, I know this over a decade. It's like, find a new way to celebrate. Find a way to celebrate that does not include an entire pizza.

Clarence Fisher: Hey, hey, hey. Welcome to the next episode of 100 Pound Party. What's up? It's Clarence Big Juice Fisher in your ear hole. Again. Did I say ear hole? ? I don't know if I can get away with saying that. Okay, So in your ear, again, Hey, listen, I am trying to be upbeat, but I've got some real stuff to share with you today. And we all, we all deal with it. And it's binge eating. It's overeating. What do you do? So today, because I'm recovering from my own binge, and I'll share, I'll share more with you after the intro here. I promise it's, it's bad , but we're gonna go over 10 ways to bounce back after the binge. And I'm gonna share with you the number one method that I've always used or not say always, uh, since I learned about it, I've used to successfully get back on track and how you can start right now, because I have to start right now. So I thought, man, this is a great time. Get in here, record this for you. So that number one, you can cheer me on cuz I need the cheering and I need the prayers. And, uh, then also maybe I will trigger something for you where you say, Hey, next time I have a binge, I really hope you don't. But next time you have a binge, you can use one of these tackles. Hold on, don't go anywhere. I'll be right back.

Intro: Welcome to the 100 Pound Party Podcast with Big Juice, uncovering weight loss, tips, tools, and strategies used by everyday people to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good.

Clarence Fisher: This was, it was so crazy. My wife and I sat in my doctor's office, my cardiologist's office, okay? And I had to, I had to wait a few months in order to get in to see him, to make sure that I was seeing the test results correct? That this was just a few months ago and I told you, On this podcast, I'm going to share my real, my real life, my real deal, what I've gone through to lose weight and what I've been fighting. And, you know, we had this, this expensive, expensive heart cardio, what they call it, a cardiac MRI done several months ago. And when the results came, man, I looked, I was in bed, I looked at my wife and I was like, Are you serious? So we set this follow up appointment and I couldn't get in to see, you know, he's super, super good.

Clarence Fisher: So I couldn't get back in to see him for a couple of months for the explanation because I needed a deeper explanation than what the, you know, the person, the assistant that calls you and tells you know, what the doc has said or whatever. And I'm like, uh, you can't leave it at that. And she was like, Well, if you need to speak with him, you need to make another appointment anyway. Make another appointment. It's like two months. It's crazy. Like the time that's going by, the anticipation. Finally, we walk in and, and we're asking him, What the heck do you mean by normal? Like, everything's good. I didn't get it because for the last 12 years, what kicked off this hundred this whole 100 Pound Party thing. I was diagnosed with heart failure. One of my left ventricle was like barely, barely pumping.

Clarence Fisher: And I was over 330 something pounds, heavily drank alcohol, smoked, did everything. right? And so then I end up with this diagnosis, and then that starts this whole, if you go listen to episode one, that gives you even a, even a, a more fuller context of why I could only, the very first thing I I decided to do was just to walk outside. Like, I did not, I didn't start excise. I couldn't, I couldn't. So what I could do was walk outside and the next day, maybe the next week, I was like, I can get to the end of the driveway. It was bad. But here I am, 12, 13 years later, and the doctor is telling me it's gone. So, and this is crazy. Beyond prayers, beyond doing all the work that I've done, I've lost 111 pounds beyond all of that. I'm still looking at him.

Clarence Fisher: And I know he got almost frustrated with me after about 30 minutes of asking questions. But wouldn't you, what are you like after, after, I mean, you've done the work, you feel like, I mean, you'll hear, you feel like you've had prayer answered, but you just wanna make sure. So that's where my wife and I were a couple of months ago. And this, you know, going through that and, you know, they were like, Hey, you definitely had an event there. I mean, we can't say, you know, they, they, they never say healed you. You can't say that. But there is nothing wrong with your heart. This is the quotes that would affect your mortality. Crazy. We did. He said, You did it. You did it, you did it. I'm like, Okay, well let's go. After 30, 45 minutes upsetting him and his assistant is like, Dude, can you just take the good news and and run with it?

Clarence Fisher: They said, Hey, we still gotta watch it. I mean, you definitely had an event, but as it stands right now, it's resolved. Oh my goodness. So if you're dealing with something like this, I wanna tell you that what, no matter what they say that it's impossible, Which is what I was told. It's never gonna change. It's never gonna get better. And all I could think about was, okay, well I'm not going to just lay here and die, so I'm going to at least walk or do something or do something. I'm just gonna tell you, I'm, I'm telling you right now that miracles do happen. Okay? So tell them to run, tell that, but we're leaving the again. She said, You know, we gotta watch it. So we don't want any relapses or anything like that and just keep doing what you're doing. I'm like, All right, cool.

Clarence Fisher: So we're on the highway and I tell my wife, How are we gonna celebrate? Stupid, stupid! Because you know, you know what I'm, you know what I'm, where I'm going, right? Why do we celebrate that way? Why does it always have to be food? And I know this, I know this over a decade. It's like, find a new way to celebrate find, find a way to celebrate that does not include an entire pizza. Oh, find a way to celebrate that, that, oh, and then you say, Hey, I'm just gonna have one piece of pizza. And you know, dad gum, Well, you can't do that. I'm not saying you can. I'm talking about me. Okay? And I know this and we're driving, and my wife who has gone through this as you probably have a partner who is going through these challenges with you, you know, she doesn't struggle like I do with weight, at least not to the she'll tell you, she'll tell you, uh, oh, I'm fluffy.

Clarence Fisher: And I'm like, uh, no . But anyway, she doesn't struggle with the addiction at all the way that, that I struggle with it. But if you do have a spouse, then you understand what I'm about to say. And they, and if they're listening right now, they understand that they go through it with you. And a lot of times it's worse for them because they can't fully understand why you can't just stop. So trying to avoid any future listening to me blow up and, and pity old pity me. She's trying to stop the binge. She says, Well, you don't need to go overboard. I mean, you don't need to. I mean, what is it that you really want? I mean, just can just get that. And I thought, Okay, I just really want chips in Caso. That's really what I want. I just want chips in quezo so can look, can we just, we just get chips in quezo.

Clarence Fisher: So she was like, Okay, so the promise is I'm just going to have chips in quezo. So, and then that's it. We're back on it. We celebrate, Hey, we're back on it tomorrow. Well, I gotta have this quezo from this restaurant and the chips from this restaurant, right? And so we get the chips from this restaurant, but you can't really, I didn't even think about it. You can't order just the queso. I guess I could have, if I was being smart, I could have said, Hey, keep the chips. I only need the queso. But I didn't. So they gave me chips in queso from this restaurant. So I had chips in queso and I, or I all, you know what? I didn't need a cup of quezo. All I really needed, I didn't need the large quezo, I just needed like, I really just needed to taste the quezo.

Clarence Fisher: That's really all I needed. But no, no, I'm sitting here with two big bags of chips, big old bowl of quezo, and, uh, went to town the next day. Nah, I didn't throw the chips away the night before. The next day I woke up with chips. And somehow, let me tell you this, this is how it ended up. And I'm sorry, I'm, this, uh, story's going a bit long, but you know what I'm talking about. I have a program, a software called Simpleology that I've used for years that I have tracked over the last, uh, I don't know, uh, it's probably been 10 years, every single day of my weight. And this happened on August 23rd, 26th. I was 223.4 pounds, okay? Today I weighed in at 254 pounds, 254.6 pounds. That is 31 pounds in the span of less than two months. That is ridiculous. And by the way, my two, and just for accountability sake, my 100 Pound Party weight is 230. So I'm walking around and you know, the guilt that you feel with binging. I'm walking around thinking, how am I going to run this podcast? How am I going to be teaching people you Juice, you cannot get above your a hundred pound party weight. You cannot.

Clarence Fisher: And I thought, you know, I can't do an episode until I get back. But I thought, what, what? Okay, hold on. Number one, you know, you're my people. You know exactly what I'm going through. And so I don't ever want to get to the point where I'm hiding the truth from you because it's part of my therapy. Part of my therapy is like having a, a community and a group of people that where I'm like, Dude, I'm failing. Help me get back on track. And that's, that's what this is. So I'm, I'm gonna keep it real. So definitely my goal, you know, I gotta get back. I gotta get back. I'm not gonna jump in on other people's podcasts and continue to do podcasts and get above that.

Clarence Fisher: That is a hard line for me, is a standard like Tony Robbins always says, I mean, you have to, you don't get what you want. You get what your standards are. And so my standard has to be for me to stay below that 100 Pound Party weight at least. And so that's another 24 pounds I gotta get back down, okay? So it's just crazy to me how quickly and how much do you have to eat for that to happen over a month and a half? And I, you know, I share this with people, you know, people in my life who don't struggle, like I struggle. And they're like, There's no way you gained that much weight. But I'm like, here's the documentation from 223.4 all the way up till 256. And I'll post this in the, in the show notes, just so you can kinda see that. And you know, of course through this while it's going on, I'm telling myself, Stop. You do the same thing. Probably. You're like, stop.

Clarence Fisher: Like while you're eating, stop. So finally I was at a, um, I was speaking at a conference last week, and this is so crazy. I told you I was, I was, I drank a lot, a lot, lot. Matter of fact, I had like court appointed, uh, AA because I got pulled over and like, I know I was on the side of the road sleep. This is, I know you're like, Hey man, this podcast is crazy. Side of the road trying to sleep it off. Cop knocks on the door. And it was like February or so, I mean, it was so cold. So I left the car running and uh, I got a DUI even though I was in the back seat and just trying to stay warm. I got a, I got a DUI. And so anyway, I ended up at court appoint AA and in aa, big up to AA.

Clarence Fisher: I mean, in AA, when you go around and you had to say, Hey, my name is whatever, and I'm an alcoholic. My name is whatever, and I'm an alcoholic. And every time they get to me, I'd say, Hey, my name is Clarence. I, mm, I can't say that how, to me, I believe the mind. I believe, uh, you know, words mean things. And I don't think I'm an alcoholic. So I'm not gonna say I'm an alcoholic because if I say I'm an alcoholic, then I'm gonna become an alcoholic . You know what I'm saying? So I was just driving my court appointed person crazy. Like every, every meeting. And I don't even know if I finished that. I wonder if she just like signed it off for me finally. But I say all that to say, I'm at this conference and it's the day before I fly home and I go up to my room, it's like 10:30.

Clarence Fisher: It's been a long day. And I'm thinking, you know what? So I go down to the bar, I get in the elevator, I go down to the bar and I'm sitting at the bar. The guy that the bartender asked me, you know, What can I get for you buddy? And I look at him and I say, A piece of cheesecake, Let me get a piece of cheesecake. And if, again, if you listen to the very first episode of 100 Pound Party, you realize, you understand that a piece of cheesecake is just about the equivalent to falling off the wagon . So I get my cheesecake, I go back to my room and I'm thinking, this bro, you are not sitting here eating cheesecake at 10:30 PM what are you doing? So I fly home, I'm like, You gotta get back. You gotta bounce back.

Clarence Fisher: You have to bounce back from this. You are going back. So I promised myself I would. So how do you do that? Well, I'll wing myself off. I've always, these quest cookies have always been given me a, um, kind of satisfying that sweet tooth, but also is protein, right? The problem is you're only supposed to eat one of them. And I found myself in the store earlier today. I walked into the store to get a box of the Quest cookies. And uh, I got two boxes. And I'm sitting in my office thinking you're about to finish both of these freaking boxes. Get in there, record that podcast, and tomorrow you're done. Matter of fact, you're done. Now finish those two and you're done. So I took a picture, I took a picture as an accountability, and I'm gonna post that in the show notes.

Clarence Fisher: You're not gonna believe it. I've got two boxes of these quest cookies and I've got rappers everywhere. And this picture is just showing to myself and to you how ridiculous I've gotten. So you and I are gonna go through this together, bouncing back from this binge. Thanksgiving is coming up, Halloween is coming up at the end of the month. I don't know if you celebrate that. If you got kids or whatever. This fall is the time is my worst time. I, I gain again, I don't wanna say all my way in the past, I've gained all my way back, but I'm not doing that anymore. But I gain way more than I want to. So let's go through this on how to bounce back from a binge. Hopefully your binges don't last a month in a freaking half like mine, and you don't gain 30 pounds.

Clarence Fisher: Good thing if there's a good thing here is like, if I can get, if I can get back, it's not gonna come off as quickly for whatever reason. That's the curse we have. You know, you can gain 20, 30 pounds and it never comes back off the same. You're set back for six months for whatever reason. But let's go on this journey, Okay? So I, I looked up how to get off of a binge, how to bounce back. Now I know what works for me and I'm gonna share that with you. But I pulled up this article from Eat This, Not that, which I've kind of started spending a lot of time on that, that website. And I'm gonna post this article in the, in the show notes. So I'll go through it really quick. They've got 17 best ways, but I don't agree with, with everything that they have here, which is not a bad thing.

Clarence Fisher: You know, there are things that you believe that I won't believe and things that I believe that you won't believe. I mean, when you have gone through this, like we have, you find out that it's not one size fits all for anything, that's a lie. And as soon as somebody, a personal trainer, somebody starts telling you it ha they are so absolute, you know, they're full of crap and you don't take their advice because there is no absolute, You don't, you don't know me, they don't know you. You know, you, you've got, do you know, do you know how, how this is this, this just tears me up how people treat, how small people treat bigger people Like we are, like we don't know, like we haven't been through almost everything under the sun to get to what may work a little bit for me.

Clarence Fisher: But everybody, I'll get off of that. But that, that gets to me sometimes how smaller people can be like, you know, you just need to do this. Oh really? . So let's go through this 17 ways. And, and if you're, if you have the show notes pulled up, you can click this. Number one is, is first of all forgive yourself. This is, this is what Eat this, Not that. And I'll just go through it really quick. I'll tell, I'll show you the ones that I agree with, the ones I don't agree with. And then I'll give you really quickly the, what's worked for me. Cause I don't want this to run too long. But number one, first of all, forgive yourself. And I agree with that. At some point today, even though when you look at the picture, you're gonna have to say, Hey bro, ju man, you gotta forgive yourself.

Clarence Fisher: And you do. It's ultimately not the end of the world. Even though it feels like it, even though it feels like you've let yourself down again. You've done it again. So crazy like I could be in the, you wake up and you're in the bathroom and it's like, this morning I thought this is stupid. I feel like the food is calling me. Like I can feel it. I, I know physiologically it's probably, it's the sugar in my system saying, Hey, give us more sugar, but you gotta forgive yourself. And number two, hydrate. Drink water. I agree with that. Start drinking water. Immediately, even while you're binging towards the end of that, start drinking water. Like, you know, if you're, whatever you're eating, start drinking water. Cause I don't know if you're like me, but I stop drinking. I stop drinking water when I'm on a, a real binge.

Clarence Fisher: It's like what I need water for. I was like, that's gonna get me full . You know what I mean? And schedule yourself. Number three, schedule yourself to get some, uh, some they say quality shut eye, but get some sleep. I totally agree with that. Go to sleep. Say, Hey, I'm not going to eat after 7:00 PM today because I gotta get back on track and don't, don't so that you can go to sleep and as soon as you get up, drink some water. For me, I like to have some coffee as well because that kind of suppresses the appetite. So number four for them is to fill up on fiber and protein. I don't know so much about that on filling up with fiber and protein, cuz protein to me, I guess if I ate real protein in my work, protein shakes and protein cookies don't necessarily work.

Clarence Fisher: But I do agree with number five is move, start moving. Because if you're like me, I've stopped moving the whole time for the month and a half. I haven't done anything. So yesterday I told myself, Bro you gotta move. So I did five minutes on the treadmill and that was it for the day. And this morning, today, today I told myself, Okay, now you, you gotta build yourself back up. So 10 minutes today, and I haven't done my 10 minutes. So after this podcast, it's like 4:45 PM uh, my wife gets off work at five o'clock, so I'll finish, I'll wrap this up and I gotta jump on that treadmill and get 10. And so, and when I say 10, I'm talking about 2.5 miles an hour. I'm talking about walking. You can walk around the block if you want to, but get moving. And so tomorrow I'll do 15.

Clarence Fisher: It's really pulling myself all the way back and then gradually walking back up. Okay? And so then we jump into, they say avoid hard to digest foods. Again, I'm putting this link in here and you can go and look at that. I don't know anything about that and what that, what difference that makes. And number seven, keep lunch and dinner clean. I agree with that. We gotta start, we gotta be clean. Look, this, this what you hear right now, this is all the wrappers, these are all the wrappers that are around me. It's stupid. So it's clean from here, from here on out. And I know Thanksgiving's coming up. So that's part of the forgive yourself because it is coming up and they say don't starve as a penance. But I'm jumping back on fasting. Like I, I, for me, I have the addiction. And I was gonna tell you earlier, as far as the AA goes, like I would not claim to be an alcoholic at that point.

Clarence Fisher: But I, at this point in my life of what I've done with food, I will, I would probably, I'm not even probably, I would say, Hi, my name is Clarence and I'm addicted to food. I would, I would for sure say that, but I say don't starve. That's the only thing that's kind of been working for me is fasting. And I followed, Dr. Jason Fung and his obesity code, uh, method. And I subscribe to their, uh, fasting method. I'll put a link there. And that's actually, I'm gonna share with you something here in a little bit. But they say allow flexibility in your diet. Now, I don't necessarily agree with this, but I get it. Everybody is not like me. Like I say, I'm not gonna be absolute, everybody's not like me, me. I have to say, okay, you're done. That's it. No more, no more.

Clarence Fisher: You can allow yourself Thanksgiving, you can allow yourself, your wife's birthday, You can allow yourself your anniversary. But other than that, until I get back to where I was at, this is the game that I play in my head until I get back. I'm on punishment . And everybody will tell you, don't do that. You know, don't punish yourself and don't, you know, it's just this is the way that I have to be with me. You gotta find out what's up with you. So if you still want to allow flexibility, allow yourself number 10, they say it shun the scale. Like don't step on the scale. I just told you I've weighed myself every single day for the past 10 years. So when from 330 something pounds all the way down to 200, and how low did we get? Like 219? I've weighed myself every single, every single day.

Clarence Fisher: And for me, it's just data. For me it's, it's like, okay, don't run away from this. There have been a couple of nights during this binge that I have wanted to go to bed and avoid the scale, but for me it's like, no, look at this. Look at what you're doing. Look at what you've done. Now my wife, on the other hand, she won't get on the scale, She won't get on the scale until she feels like she's lighter . So I envy that. So if that's, you don't get on the scale, but if you're like me and you need the data, you need the data. And so number 11 for them is talk to someone. And I do 100% agree with that. Guess who I'm talking to, right? Right. Now you, and I'm sorry, that, um, hey, there's a way for you to talk to me too.

Clarence Fisher: If you go to 100poundparty.com, there's a new button there called "Ask Juice." And we didn't know whether to say Ask Clarence, ask big Juice, Ask Juice. That's one of the things you can tell me in your voicemail. You can say, Hey, I really don't get, and don't understand why you call yourself Juice. Actually, it's a nickname. My wife calls my, calls me Juice, my family calls me Juice. Well, hap some of my family call me Junior. But most, most people call me, most people on the personal side call me Juice. And most people on the business side call me Clarence. So if juice or big juice is totally repulsive to you, let me know, you know, what, what, what's your vote? But beyond that, tell me what you're going through. I mean, and then like, if you have questions that need to be answered, ask me a question.

Clarence Fisher: I will research it and my team will research it and we will find the answer. Because I wanna know the answers to it. I wanna know what's working for you. So whatever you gotta do, just go to 100poundparty.com/askjuice. It says, it says ask Juice on the, there's a button there for right now. We may change it to ask Terry. I don't know, I don't know who Terry is, , but we may change it. All right, Number 12, consult a dietician. Yeah, you can if you want to. I have. And the dietician was like, you have an eating disorder , uh, when you're, other than that, you're doing well, but it's working for you, is what she said. So I have convinced myself, she's telling me that because I fast so much when I'm on it. I only eat on Sunday nights and Wednesday nights because Wednesday nights is our, is our date night and I'll eat on Sunday nights.

Clarence Fisher: And I know you're like, what the heck? I built my way up to it. Uh, I started by, not by pushing back eating the next morning by an hour. So if I would normally get up and eat at eight the next morning, I didn't eat till nine. And I did that for a week. And then the next week I moved to, I didn't eat till after 10. And and before you know it, I just wasn't eating and I only ate, you know, twice a week. And so she says that's bad, but it's, it's working because when I did, when I do eat, and here's the, here's the rub, here's the problem is Sunday, when I do eat, it doesn't matter what I eat and I eat as much as I'm I want until I'm full. And then, cuz I know at five o'clock, that's it.

Clarence Fisher: And I'm not going to eat again until Wednesday. So I guess you could say that I have trained myself to binge or not train myself to binge, but I have, I've gotten away with binging a controlled binges, I guess is what you would say. And so probably what happened was when I allowed myself to celebrate this monumental miracle in my life, I didn't stop celebrate, I didn't stop myself. And all I know to do right now is binge. So what I took from the dietician, I say I, I don't really believe in that, but if you want, but I, I learned a lot from the dietician visit. Uh, what I learned from her is, yeah, I need to get a little bit more help, but this is working right now. So until I get down, I'm like, Oh wait, I'm gonna keep doing it. And that's just, you know, I'm not telling you to do that for sure, but I, what I am telling you is find way out what's working for you and I, and to me, if I have the problem, we're not gonna fix it.

Clarence Fisher: You know, unless I'm, it's not killing me, killing me, right? So it's, it's not killing me, actually. So unless until I get to my goal weight, then to me, we can start working on moderation and all of that stuff. But while I'm seeing results, I'm doing it and I'm definitely not telling you to do it. And I know I'm going to, somebody right now is like, did he say 100 Pound Party, uh, slash Juice? Ooh, I'm, I'm gonna tell him right now that that is not the way to do it, . So I'm welcome. I mean, I will listen to you. So number 13, focus on the big picture. I, yes, definitely gotta focus on the big picture. What's the big picture for me? The big picture is I am going to get to my goal weight. The big picture for you is this binge, as I said earlier, is not the end of the world.

Clarence Fisher: You're going to get to your ideal weight. You have to forgive yourself and you have to snap back and reframe your mindset, which they have is number 14. Number 15 for them is get your greens in. Uh, it's got a nice young lady here with a blender grinding, blending it to me. I'm using athletic greens. I'll put the link down there. I've used it for years and it's just because I'm lazy. , we have a Breville, uh, blender and why I'm, I've got all these brand names and whatever. To me it's, it's starting to be like, you know, on TV when they have all the product placements and you, uh, like Talladega nights, have you seen Talla ? I'm big Will Ferrell's fan. So Talladega Nights where they're going to eat and then, you know, he is got like, I'm not gonna mention all those brands, but it was just like all those sponsorships and it's all on the table.

Clarence Fisher: That's what this is starting to feel like. So I'm gonna stop, but I do use those greens because if it comes in a powder and it's easy, I'm going to take it. And, uh, number 16 for them is rid the kitchen of your binge triggers. Now, totally agree with that. This should have happened a long time ago. For you, there should be no triggers in your kitchen, which is, you know, same as same as me, but which is, but I go to the store, like I I, I do have to leave the house in order to get this stuff. It's like drugs. Like you gotta, I gotta leave the house in order to get it. And unfortunately it's like drugs, . So as I was standing in the, in the aisle holding one box, I actually walked away. I was going to the register and doubled back to get another box.

Clarence Fisher: And I'm like, Hey look, I'm gonna have this one last hoorah. And then I promise in the morning, I promise in the morning, This is so sad, . So, and then number 17 for them is start now, which brings us to right now, we're starting now. I'm starting now and this is what I'm going to do. It is what I've always done and it's always worked and I believe it will work this time as well. And I, I promise like this, I'm not doing another month and a half binging. It's not happening. That, that is a, in my mind, I've already changed my mindset as they have said here on Eat this, Not that, that my mindset has changed. I said, Hey, I've got this whole life in front of me that I have to prepare for now. So that was it. I mean, that was your, that was your party.

Clarence Fisher: You went on the binger. Any other binging that happens in my life should be, will be the day at most the weekend. And when I say the day, I mean the holiday, the special event, cuz we're not gonna get away from that. But this is how we we're getting back on track. And I recommended for you, I do recommend for you to try this and I'm gonna put the link here. It is called Fat Fasting. And I learned this from Dr. Jason Fung and they, they highlight this in their fasting method. I'll put the link in the show notes, but really all it is, is eating fat. And what it does is get your body back into, you burn off all the sugars and all the glycogen, and by eating the fat, you're feeling, uh, full and you get your body to burning the stored fat.

Clarence Fisher: And so the foods that you can eat are eggs, Bacon, I will be eating. I got a bunch of bacon that I bought and I'm gonna put it in the fridge. So eat as much. And you eat as much as you want. I mean, if you're gonna binge, binge on this stuff, and I promise you, in a day or so you won't be hungry again. Like you won't desire anything else, . So, uh, you won't desire any sugar. And when I, it'll all burn out of your system and it's like magic. It's crazy. It works so well. I think I've been running from it. And so I'm telling myself right now when I snap this picture again, that, uh, no more running, I'm going to have bacon. Matter of fact, when I do, after I do my 10 minutes, I'm going to start frying bacon.

Clarence Fisher: And that's what's going to be for dinner. Bacon and eggs. You can have all the anything fatty salmon, sardines, olive oil, butter, gee, mayo. You can have that as long as it's a healthy oil base. I'll have some avocado with my eggs and bacon. My wife, who I told you doesn't struggle. Like I struggle when she even wants to stop. She doesn't binge. But, uh, she will get to a, Hey, I've had too many sweets for too long. Uh, she will start this. And while I'm fasting a long time, she may, she may fast maybe 14 hours, 16 hours, or maybe she doesn't, but she doesn't crave sweets when doing this. So she'll eat the eggs and a piece of bacon. She'll eat one egg and a piece of bacon. Man, I wish I could do that. One egg and a piece of bacon. I will tell you what I'm doing.

Clarence Fisher: I will do four or five eggs. I'm eating six pieces, seven, eight pieces of bacon. I'm eating the pack of bacon. I mean, that's what's happening. But in short order, I will not desire even the, even the quest cookies. I won't desire anything. And so at that point I tell myself, You're back on track. You're back on track. And I feel mad because I've gained 20 or 30 pounds. Couldn't I get get back on track before the end? Well, you know what, it's here. So we're moving forward and I'm going to stay with this fat fast until I can start fasting again. And when I start fasting again on my eating days, then I'm sticking to like they say, the protein and the fiber. So at, at that point I'm having roasted chicken with vegetables. And if I'm going to have dessert, it's going to be Greek yogurt with a handful of, um, blackberries.

Clarence Fisher: And I may have some pumpkin seeds in there just for a little bit of crunch. And so that becomes the meal. And I'm not doing any more of the protein cookies or shakes or whatever. So it's basically eggs for me. It's eggs and bacon, eggs and bacon, little avocado. And I'm gonna eat as much of it as I want. And eventually, uh, you're just not gonna want to eat. It is weird. So try it. Fat fasting. I'm gonna put all of this info in the show notes for you. And you know, the beautiful thing is I know you're listening and you're not, you're not thinking how pathetic is he, right? Because you get it, you my people, and you understand. So try it. Read the article here for fat fasting. Read the article here from Eat this, not that. And, um, next time you have a binge, what I would really like for this to be is your resource for, uh, if, if you binge again, come here and get your motivation to stop and then start. Stop eating, start fat fasting, and then get back on track within days, days, well, I would say a week for sure.

Clarence Fisher: If all you're eating is egg, bacon and salmon , you know what I'm saying, you're going to lose, you're gonna lose appetite for all of that sugar. So if this was helpful for you, we have officially we have officially launched this podcast. So if it was helpful for you, would really appreciate it if you shared it and share with someone who without offending them, if they can, if you, they can find it helpful and use it too. So Apple review it and that's it, you know, wherever you listen to it. And then go to 100poundparty.com, click the button to ask Juice and share with me what you think about it and if you have a question or anything like that. So, until then, remember, slight right, take slight rights. I'm about to jump on this treadmill for 10 minutes. If you can do that, do that. If you can't, if all you can do is, you know, raise your arms three or four times today and then five times tomorrow, do that. Slight is not sexy, but it works. I'll see you next week.

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Intro: On today's episode...

Clarence Fisher: You were 275 pounds at 14.

Sarah Teagle: At 14. Yeah. So as an actual grown adult, when I started my weight loss journey, I was 325 pounds.

Clarence Fisher: Wow.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah, and I'm 5'11" to give context.

Clarence Fisher: Okay. All right. Awesome.

Sarah Teagle: Not at 6'5". Might have been better if I was 6'5". I'm where I need to be now. But back then,

Clarence Fisher: Right, right, right.

Sarah Teagle: That was a lot. It was a lot to think about.

Intro:: Prepare yourself. Okay. Let's go!

Clarence Fisher: In today's episode, I'm talking to Sarah Teagle of Teagle Tough Fitness about the pros and cons of having weight loss surgery. We're giving you tips on deciding whether it's right for you. Sarah shares her first-hand account of weight loss surgery. When you listen, you'll hear how to choose a reputable facility and reputable surgeon. The mental work that needs to happen before surgery should you choose to have it. What you must do within the first two weeks after surgery, I was totally surprised by this. And Sarah also shares what she wishes. She would've known before she did it. You're gonna wanna listen to it. There's so much more in it. It's a beefy episode. It's an hour and a half long. Sarah and I are old friends. So there's a bit of catch up sprinkled in the beginning and some great context on our weight loss journeys and how it feels to be so overweight.

Clarence Fisher: It's definitely things that you'll understand, but I wanted to give you a heads up on that. If you're like Juice, I just, just gimme the skinny. just gimme the straight how to, what to do what not to do. If that's you fast forward to about the 45-minute mark and you'll get what you're looking for. Just the straight gold given to you by by Sarah. But at some point, I would advise you to go and listen to the whole episode because as I said, there's gold sprinkled throughout. Either way that you approach listening to this episode, it's gonna help you understand the serious complications that can occur after weight loss surger should you decide to and decrease your odds of developing those complications and improve your chance for long term success. Let's go!

Intro: Welcome to the 100 Pound Party Podcast with Big Juice, uncovering weight loss, tips, tools, and strategies used by everyday people to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good.

Clarence Fisher: Welcome to 100 Pound Party. This is episode duh only duh, and my special guest today. We were just talking and this is crazy. And as we unfold, this you'll understand how crazy and awesome that it is that we are here today. My guess today is Miss Sarah Teagle. Did I say Teagle right?

Sarah Teagle: Yeah, you did.

Clarence Fisher: All right. All right. I know I said Sarah, right? Not used to that.

Sarah Teagle: Yep. Uhhuh. You got that one.

Clarence Fisher: But you were 275 pounds at 14.

Sarah Teagle: At 14. Yeah. So as actual grown adult, when I started my weight loss journey, I was 325 pounds.

Clarence Fisher: Wow. So,

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. And I'm 5'11" to give context.

Clarence Fisher: Okay. All right. Awesome.

Sarah Teagle: Not at 6'5". Might have been better if I was 6'5".

Clarence Fisher: Did you calculate, have you calculated that like where you needed to be in order to, you know.

Sarah Teagle: Yes. I'm where I need to be now, but back then, woo.

Clarence Fisher: Right, right, right.

Sarah Teagle: It was law. It was a lot to think about.

Clarence Fisher: Well, according to your bio, that, which, as I was doing this research of a dad gum, I didn't know Sarah. I thought I knew Sarah. I didn't know Sarah. I thought I knew Sarah, but spent your entire life battling weight. But some of this stuff, I think a lot of us have gone through, of course, you don't know that other people are going through this until you look back, but eating disorders low, self-esteem, kind of compensating with the personality.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: I did a lot of that myself. And you put, you put you put on your side, it says the big girl with the pretty face.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. You know, you always you're like, "Oh, you're like, you have such a pretty face." You're like, listen here, you always, as a big girl, big girls around the world that are listening right now. They will know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah. Or if you've ever been a big girl, you will be described as "you have a pretty face."

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. You know,

Sarah Teagle: Makes wanna smack people.

Clarence Fisher: For me, it became a big man, right. Like, yep. Like, Hey, Hey, big man. Like, you know, and you think dudes shouldn't be bothered by, but I'm like, man, I just don't wanna be called big man anymore in my life. So five years of researching led to you of , were you five years of researching bariatric or gastric bypass surgery itself?

Sarah Teagle: Yes.

Clarence Fisher: Okay. Because from 14 you probably tried all kind of stuff, right?

Sarah Teagle: Oh, everything. I mean, eating air, I really, everything, you know, like totally tried everything. Janie Craig, Weight Watchers, Herbalife, drops shots, obviously eating disorders. And that was, I always like, I there's a blog that I have that I joke about. Like, obviously I wasn't good at it cuz I was still big. But for me it wasn't the point. It was, it was more about, not about weight, but that's a whole another show. But yeah, I had heard about weight loss surgery and back then it was something that you just didn't really talk about. Like people were like, you would do what?

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. You could be gay or had weight loss surgery, either one of those things or in an inter relationship. Not none of that stuff.

Sarah Teagle: Oh yeah. Yeah. I wrote the seal on all of those, just so you know, I mean, I just was like, you know what, everything that society says don't do. I'm gonna

Clarence Fisher: Exactly. Exactly. All right. Alright. Pull it back in. I'm sorry. Pull it back in

Sarah Teagle: yeah. So yeah, I researched it for around five years. My youngest, I actually started the process when my oldest was two, he's now 10. So that was back in 2014 was when I actually started really researching it and going through the process to see if insurance would cover it because insurance does cover it depending on the situation. And I was living in Tulsa at that time. And it was crazy because the Tulsa doctor that I was going to like went outta practice during my process. And I was like, see, this is a sign,

Clarence Fisher: Oh snap,

Sarah Teagle: This is a sign. I don't need be doing it. And so I took that sign, but it was still always in the back of my mind

Clarence Fisher: Why he went out practice.

Sarah Teagle: I guess. I got a letter saying I was in the middle of the process and that he was no longer practicing and referred me to somebody else. And I was like, I feel like this is a sign.

Clarence Fisher: That is the Lort.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. Yeah. This should not be.

Clarence Fisher: Well, probably telling you not to use that doc.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: For, so what advice would you give someone who is, let's not even talk about bypass who's new on their weight loss journey. And when I say new, I'm gonna say, cuz like you said, you said you started at 14. And I think all of us, once we get this awareness that mm-hmm we have this challenge.

Sarah Teagle: Yep.

Clarence Fisher: But this goes all the way up until now we're adults and okay, I'm gonna try this for real. Like

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. Well and my, my biggest thing was I can accomplish all these things in life. I mean, I've done some amazing things in life, just not to toot my own horn, right? But from the music industry to corporate life, to raising children to everything that I've done, but I can't overcome and lose weight? Like this doesn't make any sense and I'm very determined, dedicated, ambitious. So why can't I apply all these traits that I already know I have to weight loss and at work. And that was the thing that always stumped me is like, what the heck? Like, why is this not able to happen for me naturally? Right? Like some people can really put their mind to weight loss and it works. For me, I would go through times where, I mean, I would be killing it. I would be running, walking, like eating very healthy and strict dieting and all of those things.

Sarah Teagle: And I would only lose 50 pounds and that would be it, which would get me back backed down of the 275. So it was like, my body was, would stop at 275. And I mean, I tried everything even as an adult, like a nutritionist I went to for years and I would still get to that 275 and nothing would happen. And I would take shots that would try to help me just to get through that plateau and still nothing. And a lot of it, what I found out was I was undiagnosed with like PCOS. So for anybody that doesn't know, that's Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome and it, it really stops people from losing weight. It also causes infertility. Thankfully I didn't have any issues there, but the weight loss was the big thing for me. I was insulin resistant and there was a lot going on with my body that I never just, I never knew about, you know, you just don't know.

Sarah Teagle: And so come to find out, I had PCOS for, I mean, since I was in high school and that was some of why I could never lose weight all the years that I tried. So if I could say going back to your question right. Of like what would be the first step or what somebody that's on their weight loss journey. What could that first step be? My suggestion would be to go have labs run on your vitamins on, just like panels, hormones. Yes. All of that, because I never did that. Right. When you're on a weight loss journey and a bariatric weight loss journey, it's totally different. Bariatric is very much doctor driven and they have to watch those panels of vitamins and all and the hormones and all of that. But somebody that's just trying to lose weight on their own.

Sarah Teagle: Normally doesn't think about those things. So I'll give you an example. I was talking to, uh, somebody on my marketing team and you know, I was talking about vitamin deficiency and how that impacts and you know, we're just kind of talking about that topic. And I have struggled with anemia and iron deficiency and things like that within the last year. And she was like, that is crazy. I'm trying to lose weight and I realized like my nails were very brittle. I was really fatigued. And I immediately was like, that's your iron? And she was like, it's crazy. I just got a call from my doctor before I jumped on here that I was low in iron. And she may, you know, she's like, Hey, take supplements, do this. So I would say that's the very first place to start is go to your doctor, talk to them about what you're wanting to accomplish and get those panels done.

Sarah Teagle: That's going to point you in the right direction. Once you have your vitamins and your hormones and all of that, I guarantee you that you will feel like thyroid panels are huge. I've had my right thyroid out. And I mean, it, it's just amazing how your body I've just learned so much in the last three years of how your body works and all the tiny things that we do, what we put into it, you know, how late we stay up, all the things that we do to destruct our body when we're younger, we actually now wanna correct all that when we're older and be like what did I do?

Clarence Fisher: Who's thinking about that.

Sarah Teagle: Exactly.

Clarence Fisher: Absolutely. I mean the party doesn't start till midnight one, right?

Speaker 2: Oh, it makes me cringe. Like, I mean, let's be honest. You knew me since I was like 19 years old. I was 19 or 20 when you first met me.

Clarence Fisher: I mean, okay. There's a whole another thing.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. Obviously. Right. Like I, what

Clarence Fisher: Were you hanging out?

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. So I hung out with all the older crowds.

Clarence Fisher: Right? Exactly. Exactly.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I was, I was about 20. I moved to Tulsa when I was 19. So you think, you know, I met our group right after that, like 20, 21 was around that time that I met everybody. So it's been a while.

Clarence Fisher: That's what I'm saying is like, there are times now when, so Brandy and I are going to bed at like 730.

Sarah Teagle: Oh yeah.

Clarence Fisher: Right.

Sarah Teagle: It's amazing.

Clarence Fisher: And I'm like, this does not make sense to me. Like I remember 10 o'clock happening and it's like, we're not going, I'm not going anywhere. It's it's only 10 o'clock. We got time to chill and do whatever we're gonna do. And then, you know, we'll hit the club. You all ladies, I guess ladies had to be there earlier, but the dudes are like, I'm not hitting the club till like midnight.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. Of course. You know, I was always walking in with the dudes. So I was like, well, whatever, let's midnight, let's go!

Clarence Fisher: Exact. Right. Right.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. No, but I, I thought about it the other day that we actually remember. I don't know if you remember, we used to have Mac Mondays at

Clarence Fisher: Your house. Oh, I remember Mac Mondays. Oh yeah, for sure.

Sarah Teagle: I mean, we had the, some of the best conversations, but some of those things that we did during those meetings and like just our hangout sessions I still do today,

Clarence Fisher: which is so crazy

Clarence Fisher: Early on, that was called. That was a mastermind before I knew what mastermind was.

Sarah Teagle: Here's the thing though. If you look at the people that were in that circle and the success that has come out of that.

Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Huh? Super

Speaker 2: That'll tell like that our, our group was, we were, we were grinding. We might have been directed in some of the wrong directions.

Clarence Fisher: Oh yeah. For sure. I know my neighbors were, I know my neighbors were like I used every week

Sarah Teagle: But the, the bottom line is we all, I mean, we've accomplished some really great things. So, but I thought about that the other day when I was writing down some goals and I was like, oh, it's Mac Monday, all over again. You know? That's crazy. That was crazy. But yeah.

Clarence Fisher: So what do you think, you know, I can really relate to you saying why can't I just lose weight? It's it's like just lose weight becauseokay. Let's roll it back to Mac Mondays and even way back then. And was like, if I wanted to do something, I did it. If I wanted to open up a club, I don't know how to open up a club, but I'm gonna open up a club. I did it. Big Juices Place. Boom. There it is. This is what it is. You know what I'm saying? I don't have any license, any ordinance I'm doing it.. It's just what we do.

Sarah Teagle: Yep.

Clarence Fisher: Now at a point where it's like, okay, doctor's like, look, bro, you're like 330 something pounds and you're having issues. And I'm like, all right, cool. I'll lose weight next week. I'll this is done.

Sarah Teagle: Right. I'll write it down. We'll get it done.

Clarence Fisher: I'll see you next month. Right? We'll move on year after year. Yeah. Year after year. And then I got to where it was like 280 and I didn't understand body set weight. At that point. And you talk about insulin resistance and all that stuff. And, but it's like, it can be defeating.

Sarah Teagle: Yes.

Clarence Fisher: I can do all of this stuff. Why can't I do this? Well, I thought about the bypass, but what, the reason I didn't is because I didn't get past the, you still have to eat right. And exercise.

Sarah Teagle: mm-hmm .

Clarence Fisher: In my mind, I was like, well, if I gotta eat right and exercise

Sarah Teagle: right. Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: You know, I might as well just do that. Yeah. But it's still been, it's still been hard. Yeah. So how does a person gauge whether they should do the bypass or not.

Sarah Teagle: Or not? Yeah, that's a good question. So that is what stopped me for five years from doing it like, well, listen, I'll just do it myself. Right? Like I know how to do it. I know the things I need to do. I'm consistent. I'll just eventually I'll break through this plateau. And I got to the point where I'm like, you know what? I truly have tried everything given my a hundred percent. And if I'm going to do it anyways, I'm already consistently working out. I'm already consistently trying to lose weight and being healthy and all of this. So a lot of what people, the misconception people have about weight loss surgery. And so if that could be the gastric bypass, it could be the sleeve. It could be there's a switch. There's a lot of different kinds of surgery for weight loss. But the one that I had specifically, and I researched, and anytime you, we can talk about the process here in a minute, but whenever you're thinking about it, the biggest thing was, and if you're going to the right surgeon in the right facility, they're going to tell you that this is not like an end all be all.

Sarah Teagle: This is an additional tool to provide you the option to lose weight. So there is many people that have a misconception that weight loss surgery is the easy way out. Negative. Weight loss surgery is probably harder than somebody that's trying to lose weight on their own. And the reason I say that is because the misconception is I got weight loss surger so I'm gonna be really skinny and I'm gonna lose weight. People like you said, you're like, well, if I'm gonna do it anyway, you still have to eat healthy. After this, you have to reshape your relationship with food. You can't eat, go eat a cheeseburger and fries. You will physically get ill.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm .

Sarah Teagle: You can't have food, be a social piece of your life anymore. You know, like, Hey, let's go grab dinner and all you and your friends go drink and have dinner because you're not gonna be able to eat what they eat.

Sarah Teagle: You can't drink and eat at the same time. So if you wanna go socially drink, you can't eat. I mean there's just a lot that there's a lot of different things that happen with it, that people don't understand. And a lot of what you learned during the process of gastric bypass is some of the attachments or the relationship that you have with food. Like how did you get here? Right. As I'm sure, because you've lost a significant amount of weight. You've had to deal with that on your own as far as like, why like the cravings or just the body dysmorphia, the like you may still see yourself as big, but nobody else does, you know, after you've even, there's so many things that go along with that. And so for me, I had to make the right decision for me.

Sarah Teagle: A lot of people didn't agree with the decision I was making. I definitely kept my decision personal for a very long time because of that, I told my immediate family and then some just immediate small group of friends. And you have people that are very judgemental and make you feel like you don't need that. Why would you do that? You can do it on your own. Or you have people that are very supportive. And my immediate family was 50 50. So you automatically have that like, well, you can just do it on your own. Like, it's not that hard, but for somebody that has been overweight, as you know, like majority of your life, it is that hard. And for somebody I'll give an example, like in my family that has never been overweight. They don't know that anybody that has never been overweight can never understand the struggle that somebody has. If you have to lose a significant amount of weight, I'm not talking about 20 pounds, I'm talking about 150 to 200 pounds, like.

Clarence Fisher: yeah.

Sarah Teagle: Something in your psychological mind frame got you there. Right? Because like I talk about often in my blogs as like, yeah, I, or my bio too. Like I would never blame my mom. Right. And I shout out to my mom. You're great. But at kindergarten, if you're overweight, that's a parent thing. But if at 25 you're overweight, that's a you thing.

Clarence FisherSpeaker 1: Ugh.

Speaker 2: And some for

Speaker 1: Preach!

Sarah Teagle: Even when we're 14, right? If I'm 14 and 275, that's still a me thing because I gotta figure it out. Right. As a teenager and whatever I put in my mouth, I'm still responsible for. But then on the flip side, what you're taught about food is how you will understand food and how you will use your body for fuel or to trash it. And let's be honest as when you're a teenager growing up, it's easy to trash your body every single day, up into three, four o'clock in the morning. You that's what you're doing because you think it's fun, cuz you're a teenager.

Clarence Fisher: Right, right.

Sarah Teagle: As you get older, as we have known,

Clarence Fisher: But who does that? Right. You know, you're not thinking about getting older at

Sarah Teagle: No, you're not thinking about how, you know, you should be eating your protein instead of a cheeseburger.

Clarence Fisher: Right. Right. 25 year, 25 years old was the grownups club. If you remember like, like that's the adult club at 25, like, oh, those old folks.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. 25, you think, you know everything and you're still stupid. So.

Clarence Fisher: .

Clarence Fisher: So, so yeah. It's, it's, it is hard and people don't understand. There's so much that you spit in that, like it is hard and you don't understand. And somebody's like, did he just say spit? Okay. Yeah. It's it's the party. Okay. So there, you know, there's this, well, why can't you, why can't at least for me, I don't know if you have this issue, but I have this issue. We just can't keep anything around.

Sarah Teagle: Yep.

Clarence Fisher: And it's it's because I don't even care if it's not even my type of snack. Like I don't, like, we just can't keep it because I can't for whatever reason, stop until it's gone.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. So I'll tell you what we, I mean, straight up that's food addiction, right? It is. So I think a lot of people that are overweight and I've even had to just say it out loud, right? I am addicted to food. I'm not addicted to drugs. I'm not addicted to alcohol. I could care less about any of those things. Right. But what I also deal with is I cannot keep certain food in my home. My kids, I get like if I buy them something that I know is a trigger for me, I'm just saying Doritos and Oreos. I can't do it. I cannot. And I will even be in the grocery store trying to convince myself to buy the Oreo so my kids can have an Oreo. No, they don't need it. They'll be fine. Yeah. Right. Like my kids eat pretty healthy just because I'm trying to teach them differently. But it's a food addiction. A lot of overweight, people are addicted to food. They don't understand what food addiction is. And it's not ever really talked about because how could you be addicted to food?

Clarence Fisher: Especially in the south, right?

Sarah Teagle: However, food addiction is probably the worst addiction that you can have. So if you think about it, drugs, you have to go find. Alcohol, you have to go to the store and buy. I don't know if you're addicted to nicotine and tobacco or whatever. You gotta go to the store to buy it. Food you have to have, and you don't have to have any of those things to live. Right? Those are all additional things that you don't have to have. Food, you have to have to live. So if you don't have food in your house, you're going to die. Right.

Clarence Fisher: Eventually

Sarah Teagle: Eventually you're gonna die. If you're not drinking water and you get dehydrated, it can lead to various severe issues. So food addiction is the worst because you have to have food around you. It's, ingrained in our society, in our social settings. Like you go over to people's houses. What do they have food and drinks ready for.

Clarence Fisher: What do they bring?

Sarah Teagle: Exactly? What do they bring? When you have, when you're at work and they have potluck? When you have like, food is ingrained in everything that we do within our day to day life.

Clarence Fisher: Which one, another thing that you said was social. What term did you use? I hadn't heard that before. Like, like you can't have food as a social, something in your life, a social man. When I listen back, I gotta listen for that. But it was basically like, and it's real. Like I get it food. Can't be a, just a social part of your life. Like it is with everybody else, which is what you were saying. Like, Hey, let's go have lunch. Let's go do this. Let's go like everything's around.

Sarah Teagle: Yep.

Clarence Fisher: Food. And when people bring you gifts, they bring you

Sarah Teagle: Food,

Clarence Fisher: Food.

Sarah Teagle: When you into a new neighborhood, they bring you food.

Clarence Fisher: Absolutely. And it's not even just food, it's a cake or it's candy or it's a pie or it's, you know, and I remember kind of I'm a logical type person and it, you just start getting to me at our family gatherings. When we look around the table or I look around the table and I'm fighting and everybody's using this as an excuse to just yes.

Speaker 2: Gorge

Speaker 1: And Gorge. Yes. On all this crap. And nine out 10 of us are obese.

Sarah Teagle: Yep.

Clarence Fisher: Severely.

Sarah Teagle: Yep.

Clarence Fisher: But we're not even looking at it.

Sarah Teagle: Nobody cares. Cause they're spending time with their family enjoying the food because food becomes like an ambiance of love.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah.

Sarah Teagle: And so like, for example, my mom shows through shows, love through food. She struggles. Okay. Shout out to my mom. I love you. But she struggles to understand. She was one, one of my number one supporters. But she literally struggles to understand if I'm around her, why I am not eating, it becomes an issue of like, well you only had a protein shake. Yes. I have the stomach of a small child.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm .

Sarah Teagle: Right. Or on holidays. And she shows love through food. So she wants you to eat. And you know, as well as I do, there's some cultures and the older generations, that's how they ex, if you go to somebody's house and you don't eat their food,

Clarence Fisher: They spent an hour, two hours. Yeah. Three hours cooking this. Yes. With love for you.

Sarah Teagle: Lots of love that they are ready for you to sit down and enjoy. So they can see the look on your face when you're like, this is such a good pie

Clarence Fisher: And they don't eat it themselves having .

Sarah Teagle: Right. And then they're like, now take it all home. So I don't eat it.

Clarence Fisher: Right. Exactly.

Sarah Teagle: So now wait a minute. This was a Joke.

Clarence Fisher: Exactly.

Sarah Teagle: But yeah, food literally is. I mean, it's part of, society's like just way of communication. I think like everybody, you go out to restaurants, you go, you know, your kids win a softball game, a football game, basketball game. What do you do? Go take 'em for a treat. Mm-hmm go get 'em ice cream, go out. Oh, we're gonna go out for dinner after church. What do you do? You go out for dinner.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah.

Sarah Teagle: All of these things. And so what I've had to do is really take a step back and realize how I spend my time with other people. And instead of going out to eat, like, Hey, let's go on a hike. Let's go to the beach.

Clarence Fisher: Who goes on a hike with you?

Sarah Teagle: Well i mean,

Clarence Fisher: I have to ask who goes on a hike with you

Sarah Teagle: Nobody,

Clarence Fisher: Right?

Sarah Teagle: I'm just saying, I will suggest it normally I'm by myself, but,

Clarence Fisher: Well, I'm just saying, because I have that in my head, like all of a sudden I'm trying to have walking meetings, but nobody wants to walk. Yep. Like I've had one person meet me at the park, right? Yeah. Like people will just rather not have lunch with Clarence.

Sarah Teagle: Right I'd rather, it's like, no, we're not gonna meet with that guy. He doesn't wanna be around,

Clarence Fisher: You know, but I've become militant about it. Yeah. It's like we're ostracized because of this addiction. Yeah. Cause people don't understand it and it's like, and then I, sometimes I just get off. Like, I'm just, it's like, Hey man. All right. Well, we just won't see each other cuz I'm because I can't do that. You don't even know how difficult it is to recover from a lunch relapse. Like.

Sarah Teagle: Yes.

Clarence Fisher: People don't talk about that. Like I go home and it's just like, the way that I've explained it is if, if I was an alcoholic you would not. And you knew I was an alcoholic.

Sarah Teagle: I've explained it the exact same way.

Clarence Fisher: Bring me a bottle. Yep. When you come see me, you would not pressure me into drinking when I sit next to you. Yep. So I gotta get you to start thinking that way and there, and it's I get you. I understand you. It's just hard for people to understand that.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. People don't get it unless you're living that life. People don't get, I have to tell even my family, like you don't understand, like why would you do that? Right? Like there was one time that, you know, we were having a family dinner and there was literally nothing that I could eat on the table and I was pissed. right. And I'm like, wait a minute, you invited me over right now. I don't have any family that lives in my area. Right. So we're sitting down to and literally you guys are having a great time. And then I was like, you know what? I, I had to rethink, I, I got really upset. Right. And got into it with a few family members. But what I will, cuz my attitude hasn't changed Clarence. But what I will say is that they just don't get it.

Sarah Teagle: Right. And I explain it that exact same way. Like if I was an alcoholic or a drug addict, you would not be bringing me that thing. But you're offering me cheesecake knowing that's my thing. Like, oh gosh, I can cupcakes and cake. I'm good. But cheesecake or carrot cake, like don't come at me. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that's like an attack. Coming, attacking my soul. So, you know, there's just different things. And I like, I don't eat pasta anymore. I don't eat rice. And that's just a choice because I choose not to provide myself a lot of triggers. Yeah. Cause I know what my triggers are. I've learned that through this process and for me, it's easier not to be triggered and then feel like crap afterwards. So if I just have did it all together, I probably in the last three years since I, surgianniversary is what we call it.

Sarah Teagle: It's like your anniversary of your surgery is July 1st. So I'm coming up on three years. And lately what I've been thinking is, you know, like I have totally changed my relationships with my family, my friends. I'm more like to myself, not in a bad way. I just would prefer not to go to a lot of gatherings where I feel tempted because it's not worth it for me. So I'll catch you the day before or the day after, or Hey, when you know, like I'll come for a little bit, but I'll have a protein shake in my hand. So I'm not tempted or I'll eat before I go. So I'm full and I'm not thinking about it. Now, if I go hungry, that's when you're gonna have, you know, you get that issue. But I have to prepare in a different way for different gatherings. And there's people in my life that don't know I've had surgery or that meet me and they don't know, and that's not in any fault of them.

Sarah Teagle: So I always have to be prepared for that as well. You know, if you're working with coworkers and they don't know, they don't understand your story or the magnitude of what you have gone through. And so I'm just always very aware, but I probably distance myself from any social gatherings that involve food just for that reason. Because to me it's never worth it. And it kind of gets tiring just having to explain it all the time. Like, listen, I would just like, just call me after you guys are done eating and I'll come like, you know, so I think, yeah, I definitely food addiction is real. It is, it is a thing. And it's hard because I mean, if you think you turn on the TV advertisements for food, you everywhere you go fast food, restaurants, everywhere. And for somebody that really has that addiction to say, no, every minute you go by a fast food place or every minute you see a piece of chocolate or every minute you see a Mountain Dew versus a water. I don't know if that's your thing. Right? I'm I'm not a soda drinker and never really have been, but sweet tea speak Cole as well. So now I do unsweet tea. It's not as fun, like living a healthy lifestyle. People are like, like, why would you do that? Like, no, it's not as fun.

Clarence Fisher: Oh yeah.

Sarah Teagle: Like it's, it's not, it's not as fun to have to like prep meals. And I mean, I now enjoy it, but in the beginning, no, it's not as fun, but the way you feel and the difference you feel in yourself every single day and the energy, I'm sure you can relate to the energy that you have now versus when you were over 300 pounds. Like me, what? Getting outta bed. I was like, I just don't wanna do it.

Clarence Fisher: I didn't wanna take out the trash. Yeah. I didn't wanna walk to the car. It's just it's yeah, It was.

Sarah Teagle: Now I've lived five lives by noon, you know? Like

Clarence Fisher: you got kids too. And

Sarah Teagle: I got kids, you know, like, yeah, it's crazy. Cuz I'm up at 5 am doing workouts and I'm going to bed 7 30, 8 o'clock you know, I'm cool. But I'm fine. But I would rather have my life be that than go back to the trash that I was feeling like when I was having fun,

Clarence Fisher: You know it's and this is, this is the reason that I created the party and started expanding it. I know one of the things that I wanted to do with this podcast is to tell the real side of weight loss because we don't hear it a lot. We see the pictures the, before the afters, whatever. But nobody gets into the things like what you just shared of. No, no, everyone listening is nodding of this, getting to a point to where it's dealing with this addiction silently. And because like what you said, because we have to eat, it's different than dealing with an alcohol addiction or drug addiction. Like yeah. You know, you can go to get togethers and there's not gonna be, you're pretty sure there's not gonna be drugs there. Right. Right. Or, well, at this point, at this point

Sarah Teagle: In all depend on your friend circle, you know, but we would,

Clarence Fisher: I'm just saying like at this point in our lives, we're pretty sure. Right. Or we can, but yeah, that depends on which circle we're in. even in our friends,

Sarah Teagle: Never dull moment. I'm trying to tell you.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, and that's, what's crazy when you're talking to somebody who knows, you know,

Sarah Teagle: I've known you for over a decade, sir.

Clarence Fisher: You know what I'm saying? I still got a pocket. Yeah. I still got a pocket of homies I can go to. All right. So, but there's, you know, there's gonna be food.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. And majority of the time, if you're an alcoholic and people know like in your family or you're circle know you're an alcoholic. If they're right. If they're, if they're good people, they will intentionally not have alcohol around you and not have the temptation there for you. So they may tell everybody coming, Hey Sally, over here, you know, like let's not, let's have it be something that is alcohol free because you know, some people, you know, X, Y, Z, you can't do that with food. You can't say, Hey, give all the food home, but come for Thanksgiving.

Clarence Fisher: I do have some friends who at least they will be like, will make sure there's an option there. Like you said, like you showed up. I just went to an event a couple of weeks ago. And it was like, Hey, just bring a dessert or, or an appetizer. And you've probably gone through this phase two where you would wanna take something that everybody else is going to enjoy, even though, oh, you, you didn't ever do that.

Sarah Teagle: Oh, I did. I just bring it for myself. Cause I'm like, this is what I'm

Clarence Fisher: Well, this, this is what I'm saying, this what I'm saying. I, I would like wanna take something that everybody else would enjoy. So you say cheesecake, that's my thing too. Right. And so I'm like, Hey, just grab it, grab a cheesecake. And I won't open it.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: Okay.

Sarah Teagle: Make a sugar free cheesecake the next time and bring it. I guarantee you. They won't know the difference.

Clarence Fisher: Well, this time. Oh, that's a good one. Okay.

Sarah Teagle: It's sugar free cheesecake and crust that you can get. And literally I've done that to my family. I'm like, yeah. I brought a cheesecake and then they were like, this is so good. I was like, yeah, it has like an extra scoop of protein and um, it's all sugar free.

Clarence Fisher: and that's one of the things that you do that I like that you do in your Facebook group and on your site, which we'll talk to in a little bit, is those alternatives, right? Yep. But like, so I'm the dude who walks in with Greek yogurt and, and black bears.

Sarah Teagle: Yes. Oh,

Speaker 1: What, you know what I'm saying at this, at this point, it's like, you know it, like, I like, like, I'm that dude, I'm gonna be the only one with a scoop with with a third Cub Scoop.

Sarah Teagle: Just, just gimme the tub. Like I just brought the tub, just put the blackberries in there.

Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It's like, anybody else want Greek yogurt? Like, oh, that's the guy you told us about. Okay.

Sarah Teagle: Right. All I'm

Clarence Fisher: I'm leaving right after grace. Yeah.

Sarah Teagle: or be like, Hey, bring a, bring a side dish. And I'll bring like some green beans and asparagus.

Clarence Fisher: Right. You know what I'm saying?

Sarah Teagle: This's really what we had in mind. Well, right. These are my favorites. So this is what I had in mind.

Clarence Fisher: Exactly. So after a minute, nobody's gonna miss you anyway cause you know, but it does, it does get easier to just like you say, meet before or after like even that event.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: I was going two hours before everyone else while he was cooking for grilling or whatever. And so that way I can be ghost I've I've shown up, you understand my struggle. Hey. You know, and then I'm out. Yeah. Right.

Sarah Teagle: Yep.

Clarence Fisher: But it's good to share with the people that I think you can. Yeah. What the struggle is because man, when you get home after giving in,

Sarah Teagle: It's horrible.

Speaker 1: I don't think people, I don't people who don't struggle with it don't understand.

Sarah Teagle: No.

Clarence Fisher: How defeated and depressed and you can feel. And so, yeah, you're right. To what you're saying is like, who wants to go through that? It's not worth it.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. And after you've had gastric bypass, you just can't. So I could, if I eat something that is not right for me, I could literally get sick and be in the bathroom for an hour or two. And then what are you gonna do? You're at your friend's house in the bathroom. That's not cute. Right? Like what you throwing up in their you know, like what

Clarence Fisher: Is, you could cover it up. You could grab like a bottle or something and cover it up.

Sarah Teagle: You know, it's like,

Clarence Fisher: Cause, cause what's lame. Is that all you did was eat a piece of.

Sarah Teagle: Right. Like, oh, come on. Oh it is. You're fine.

Clarence Fisher: Right.

Sarah Teagle: But yeah. I mean, you can, you can literally get sick from it. And so it's like, it's just not worth it. I'm not gonna take the risks. Like if I've never, especially right after you've had surgery, you go through certain stages of introducing food back into your life. You know, the first two weeks, your, your protein shakes and water. And it's just, it's just a job to get that in. And literally a job you have to time. Like you have to sit there and time yourself to have sips every 10 minutes. And that's the first two weeks. And then you go into soft foods where you can only eat like scrambled eggs, anything you could cut with a plastic fork. Right? So yogurt, eggs. I'm trying to think of what else. I ate a lot of yogurt back in that time.

Sarah Teagle: And then you go into solids where you get things back. So I couldn't eat vegetables after surgery until I was at least three months out. So you introduce food back and you never, you just learn very quickly. You, you don't try a new food unless you're at home because you don't know how your stomach it's. It's like a brand new stomach, which you don't know what a brand new stomach feels like. Cuz you know, we all are born with one stomach, but it is, it's just totally different. And you have to reshape your mind frame, your relationship, your taste buds are different. You it's just totally new. And the thing is, if you are not ready for that, like when I probably started researching it, I wasn't ready for that. Like I was still like, well I can't really commit to like never doing X, Y, Z, or never having a piece of sugar again.

Sarah Teagle: I don't think I can commit to that. But as I got older and I really, the way that I started feeling, you know, I was working at that point. I was working 12 to 15 hour days. The stress level, the just the intensity of life itself is big. And I'm also emotional eater. So if I'm stressed, I'm going to eat. It's part of the food addiction, right? If I'm sad, I'm going to eat. If I'm happy, celebrate, let's go eat. You know, it's food is everything like we've just talked about. And so there would be times I remember like I would be literally in corporate life, living off of coffee, we would order food and work through lunch. We would order dinner and work through dinner and then I would be driving home and I'd be like, oh, well I gotta pick something up.

Sarah Teagle: Cuz then on the way home I got like, when I get home, I'm gonna wanna shower and go to bed. Cuz I gotta get up in like three hours and do this all over again. And there was one time in my life. I was in corporate and I had reached out to you. I don't know if you remember when I was living in Orlando and three people I worked with had heart attacks. And that was around the time I started thinking about, I was like, you know what? This is not a lifestyle. I'm not trying to die. And I actually had a friend that I worked with that had the gastric sleeve and at that time, and so I watched her kind of go through that journey and that's when my mind frame started to change. And I was like, you know what? I need to do it. And so

Clarence Fisher: What is that journey? Like? How did, how does that start? If someone's thinking about it, what are, what are those steps?

Sarah Teagle: So if you're thinking about it or wondering if it's the right option for you, right. It's may not be, it may be the first thing is to reach out, do your research, right? I mean, Google is your friend. However, here's what I would just say in doing research. There's a lot of people out there that have really like nightmare stories. They have stories that are at like, I am like, oh my gosh. If I had to go through all that, that would be horrible. 1% of people that have any type of weight loss surgery have complications 1%. So you're hearing from those 1%, there's a lot of Facebook groups I'm in that I'm mortified by one, the stories that are told or just how their doctors are unsupportive, they don't give 'em guidance. They, they have, they gifted surgery, but they have no clue what to do after that.

Sarah Teagle: So the first thing I would do, like the surgery team that I used was amazing. And they're, they have a, a place in Tulsa. They have a place in Arkansas. Like they have a few different locations, but they have a plan and they walk you through a lot. But the first step I would say is Google. You know like what it looks like to have, like if you're thinking about the gastric bypass or the sleeve, there's a difference between the two and then set an appointment with somebody that does this type of surgery and what normally, if here's how I would say, if you know, you're going to a very reputable place, here's what will happen. Before you even have an appointment, you will go through a webinar or a meeting where you go to a meeting or you go to a webinar it's free and you learn about the different options that the facility will provide.

Sarah Teagle: So for example, my webinar, they talked about like the gastric bypass the sleeve and there was another one like the lap band and you really learn, it shows you the surgical procedures. It shows you what happens internally when that is happening, cuz each surgery is different. And then after that you make a consultation appointment in your consultation appointment, you and the doctor will talk about what your goals are. How long have you been working towards weight loss? It depends on like, how, how big are you? What do you weigh? What is your BMI? So a lot of insurance companies will pay for your gastric bypass or for your surgery. That would be another first step is like call your insurance company and say, do you guys cover weight loss surgery? If so, what are the requirements? So you're going in knowing what that looks like.

Sarah Teagle: If they say no, a lot of people will have payment options and payment plans and things like that. If that's, you know, something that you need. So don't necessarily worry about that too much. But if you're going to a place, those are the things I would start with. If they don't do any of those things, that would be a red flag for me. I would exit stage left and find some place else. Another thing though that I do see, and I, I personally would not do it, but I'll put that out there for people is a lot of people go to different countries to have weight loss surgery. I personally, I just could not, I couldn't be an option for me. I just would not. I just can't. But there are a lot of places that I've heard stories and seen videos where it's like amazing.

Sarah Teagle: And so you may research that as well. I chose to stay local and, and do it that way. But then once you go through that process, once you have your consultation, you do a lot of testing. So they wanna make sure that you would one be prepared for surgery and your body would be able to like be put under and you don't have any heart issues. You go through a psychological evaluation, you meet with a dietician and it's a process. You don't just walk in and get surgery. So it's normally a six month process and you meet with them often. So it depends, but you go through the dietician every month and you have goals to lose weight prior to surgery. And if you don't meet those goals, your insurance does not cover surgery. So it's crucial that during that time you're implementing the changes that your doctor will give you to start doing.

Sarah Teagle: If you do that. So I'll give you some examples. If you, they tell you to chew your food at least 20 times before you swallow. Why? Because when you have surgery of a smaller stomach and then chewing will make sure that one, nothing gets stuck in your intestinal track. But then also two is you're really digesting the food better because a lot of people don't chew their food properly and they're just swallowing huge pieces of chicken or huge pieces of food or whatever it is. So chewing a lot will help you in not being, not overeating because you're chewing enough to where, okay, so that's one thing. The other thing is you don't eat, you don't drink anything 30 minutes before a meal and 30 minutes after now, that's something that goes away eventually that you can actually eat before, but you never eat.

Sarah Teagle: My entire life will be that I do not drink until 30 minutes after I'm done with my last bite. And the reason that is, is because a gastric bypass patient, or even with the sleeve, I believe when they eat mal absorption is a key, right? Like you want the food that you just ate. Hopefully it's protein to digest. And for you to get the nutrients that's possible. If you drink water or anything, right afterwards, it goes right out. So you won't get the nutritional value that you needed from that meal. And then you're gonna be hungry because you didn't get the nutritional value. You didn't get that protein. That's gonna leave you feeling fuller and in an hour or two, you're gonna be hungry. And then that's when you start gaining weight because you're gonna continue to be eating, drinking, and flushing it right out, and then you're gonna eat again.

Sarah Teagle: And so it just, it doesn't work. Right. And so not to say, you can't have like a tiny sip and you know, like your mouth was dry or something, but, but yeah, you don't. I was a big, I used to drink sweet tea, like cups and cups of sweet tea with my meal. That was my thing. Like I could go through three or four glasses of sweet tea while I'm eating a meal. No problem. So those are, that's one of the big things, but you start implementing changes like that during that six month period. That's how you should at least right. Not everybody follows that, but if you're really serious about the journey, that's what you would start. You can't smoke ever again after you have surgery. So if you're a smoker, like I was a smoker often on, I have not had a cigarette, a black and mild, whatever. since the day I chose to have surgery,

Sarah Teagle: They do a nicotine test, a urinalysis that before you can have surgery, you cannot have any because it stops your healing process. If you start smoking afterwards, you can get ulcers. So these are the things that when they say like weight loss surgery is the easy way out. There are so many things that people don't know or don't think about that. Like Clarence, if you wanted to tomorrow, you could become a smoker again, fine. A body would care, right? I mean, except your wife, but you know, but for me, I could literally be damaging my body and then end up in the hospital. So it's just things like that, that we, I have to like really think about things before I'm putting something in my mouth to eat it. Or, you know, like, what is the nutritional value of this?

Sarah Teagle: You also, some of the one last thing I'll share is that you always are taught to eat your protein first. So I don't know if you consciously think about this the next time you sit down to eat, right? That a lot of people go for their carb first, their fries, their potatoes, their pasta, whatever it is, right. Their sweet potato. They're not gonna go jump to the veggie normally. Right? And they're going to let the meat sit for a little bit. It let's say you have steak and potatoes. Your first bite is probably gonna be a potatoes and so, or chips, right? If you like all of those things, if you think about it, they're all carbs and have no nutritional value. So you fill up on that and then you eat your protein. When you have surgery. The number one thing that you do is count your protein because you need protein to keep your hair.

Sarah Teagle: You need protein to make sure you have strong nails. Like protein is what fuels your body to fill full. But then also to have energy, like if you do studies on protein, it's, it's there, right? So that's why a lot of diets are low carb, high protein, like keto is low carb, high protein. However, it's a lot of fat can be involved in some of the things that you eat. So you just have to be careful about that. But the biggest thing is you always eat your protein first. So when you sit down to eat, you always see me. I start with my meat or my protein first. And then if you are not full or you have room, you have some bites of veggies and you have whatever else you have on your plate. So I could go on,

Clarence Fisher: which is I, I heard, I think it was a TikTok where you were talking about the hair loss.

Sarah Teagle: Yes. That's a, that's a big thing or, or a common thing?

Sarah Teagle: It is very common. So with the gastric bypass more than the sleeve. So with gastric bypass, the reason it's common is because you go through a phase where you have hair loss, it's different for everybody. Some people experience it, some people don't. I did experience it. However, your doctors are very clear, like it's gonna grow back it's okay. Right. So if you think about somebody, if you know anybody that's had gastric bypass, other than me, right? If you've seen them, they drop a significant amount of weight. Very quickly. I lost 167 pounds in one year and I've maintained it. And I was also pregnant. So my story was just a little bit different, but 167 pounds, I have, I haven't had to lose anymore. After year one, I've had to maintain it, which is actually harder than the maintenance mode is always harder. But for hair loss, I started losing hair around like six to nine months.

Sarah Teagle: And it lasted for a few months. Now I have long hair. So it sheds anyway, but it was thinning. I do have a TikTok video. It shows where it was thinning and where it grew back, which is upfront. Not a lot of people could tell, except for me. Or if you got like really close up on the face, which nobody's getting that close anyways, you know, like you can see the thinning pieces, but the reason is because your body is going through so many changes. And if you think about the calories and the new, the, just the calories and the protein and all that, that you used to get, and now your body is in, I don't wanna say starvation mode, cuz you're not starving by all means like you're eating and you're, you're good. But your body is kind of going through a starvation mode of its own, right?

Sarah Teagle: Like it's getting rid of all the toxins that you have put in from processed foods and all of the things that we put in our body that are horrible for us. And so, you know a lot of people take biotin. They, they, and I tried that. I did the shampoos that have biotin and that make your hair thicker. And there's a lot of different things that you can do during that process. But the biggest number one thing is to get your protein. And at that time I knew I wasn't getting my protein cuz I was pregnant. It was hard for me to hold down protein. So I knew that it was coming and I just was like, you know what I mean? There's not much I can do about it. So, you know, like just put a wig on if you need to, but whatever,

Clarence Fisher: We're not gonna get to the slap

Sarah Teagle:

Clarence Fisher: With all of this, you still felt like it was the best thing for you to do

Sarah Teagle: 125000%.

Clarence Fisher: So if someone has listened and thank you for sharing all those steps.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: Breaking it down like that because cuz I guarantee you, there are a ton of people listening who were in that five year research mode. Yeah. And they're doing their research. They're probably in groups. They're probably seeing the, the horror stories that you're saying.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. Yeah. Nine times out 10, those people are not following their doctor's directions. Nine times out of 10, they went to a janky doctor.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah.

Sarah Teagle: Nine times outta 10. They're also the people that are posting about how they're going to McDonald's or I mean, I'll give you a story really quick. I was in the hospital, you stay, I stayed one night in the hospital and the nurse was like, they teach you like what to do for the next two weeks. And she was like, you know, you'd be surprised. Like you're doing great. You'd be surprised. And I was like, I don't feel like I'm doing great. You know? And she's like, no, like some people get outta the hospital. And like I had a patient get outta the hospital from having weight loss surgery and went and ordered a chicken sandwich from McDonald's ate it and ended back up in the hospital. Like people can die from doing those things and it's it's mind blowing like that. You're not ready if you're not ready, you're not ready.

Sarah Teagle: And that's okay. But if you are ready to make a life change and I guarantee it's not as bad as it may come across. Right. Of like, oh, all these restrictions, it has literally changed my life. And I would say to anybody thinking about it, do it. If you have, are researching and you have thought in your mind to do it and you know, your struggle and you know, personally, all the things that you have battled, and this is something that you are thinking about. I would at least go talk to the doctor, make a knowledgeable decision. But nine times outta 10, the experiences that I've had after meeting people that have had surgery, even if they've had complications, their number one thing is I wish I would've done it sooner.

Clarence Fisher: Mm.

Sarah Teagle: And that's my thing is I wish I wouldn't have took five years to do it.

Sarah Teagle: And I wish I wouldn't have been scared to be judged so much. And I wish that I would have looked at it and thought I need this for my health versus I don't wanna make that commitment because I might wanna cheeseburger in two years because the old meat now looking back, I find things that I can still eat a cheeseburger. Right. I use the Turkey ground turkey. I season that thing up and I don't have it with a bun. I put cheese and a pickle on top. It tastes the same. Yeah. But no carbs. Right? So there's, there's healthy options for everything, but 110%, I would say to anybody, if you are thinking about it, go start the process. If you feel like it's not for you, when you're in the process, don't do it. But I guarantee you, once you start the process, you'll become so excited that you're, it's it's life changing. Like it's, it's just amazing.

Clarence Fisher: And then what's really cool is whether they do that, you know, I'm sitting here thinking, you know, after that's done, then they can connect with you and get. Like you said, the maintenance. Yeah. You know, people don't understand that either. It's like, once you, once

Sarah Teagle: You, that was like the easy part.

Clarence Fisher: You know what I'm saying?

Sarah Teagle: And now you're like, okay, well I'm good. And then you realize like, no, if you go back to cuz those, the old habits creep back up, let's be honest. Like,

Clarence Fisher: oh yeah,

Sarah Teagle: You could drop a hundred pounds on your own or with weight loss surgery. And as I saw your, your post the other day in 100 Pound Party, it's about quest cookies. And what's funny is I thought about you the other day I was in the store and I saw quest cookie. I was like, good old Clarence, but there's still things that people perceive as healthy, but they'll make you gain weight and you have to be like, they're like, oh, well I can have a protein cookie. No, no, no.

Clarence Fisher: Right. 220 calories.

Sarah Teagle: Right? Yeah. And, but, but see, that's the thing is people just, they don't, there's a lot of people that don't understand unless you're walking in our shoes of having to lose a significant amount of weight. And it's good that there's so many like for us, right? Like we've both done it in, but just different ways. And I think the Testament is, is we both started different support groups, but it's still the same.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah.

Sarah Teagle: Right. Like we know the journey and we wanna help people. Yeah. And that's the biggest thing is if you think about it, when we were both overweight, we never talked about our weight. That was one topic that if I think about it, right, there was a lot of us that were overweight. Let's be real.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. For sure.

Sarah Teagle: The, we should have been talking about that. We should, we shoulda we should have been talking about that on Mac Mondays. Like, however,

Clarence Fisher: That's what I'm saying. We didn't talk about health matter fact. We were, I know, at least I was actively trying to destroy my health on mag. Oh yes. Yeah.

Sarah Teagle: But then you, when I went home. Yeah. And when I was living my day to day life and I was trying to lose weight.

Clarence Fisher: Yep. Yep

Sarah Teagle: I was trying to battle Bulimia.

Clarence Fisher: I had no idea. So what you're saying is even at that time, we did not lean on each other for that.

Sarah Teagle: No you don't. Because weight is just like, it's kind of like, it makes people uncomfortable.

Clarence Fisher: Yep.

: It makes people uncomfortable because think about it back then. Who am I to tell you to lose weight? Mm. Who am I to tell you to, to live a better lifestyle? I'm not living

Clarence Fisher: Here. Well, I would've laughed it off.

Sarah Teagle: We would both have, we would've both. Hey F you buddy. Right. And let's kick back some whiskey or whatever, you know? Like some Crown,

Clarence Fisher: It would've been a joke, whatever. Yeah. Crown, would've been more like a joke.

Sarah Teagle: yeah. And you think about it. Like I threw my weight around like, you know,

Clarence Fisher: Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody was messing with you. Like, like, no. Yeah, yeah.

Sarah Teagle: It wasn't happening. But that's a coping mechanism. Mm-hmm that you deal with for being overweight. Well, why not use it to my advantage? Yep. When you're younger and you're overweight, especially like you're a guy you're big you're weight. Well,

Clarence Fisher: I did the same thing.

Sarah Teagle: Nobody's gonna mess up with you.

Clarence Fisher: I did the same thing, right?

Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So you, you think, well, if I'm overweight and I'm big, I'm gonna use it to my advantage.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm .

Sarah Teagle: so at least people will leave me alone and that's just a defense mechanism. And I've struggled with that. Even late. I've struggled with that now that I'm smaller.

Sarah Teagle: Oh yeah.

Clarence Fisher: Is like,

Sarah Teagle: Imagine. Right. So now I'm like, people will probably wanna kidnap you. You , this is what I thought I told my mom. I was like before, if I'm walking in a parking lot, late at night, I know for a fact nobody's coming for me. Okay. First of all, to, I'm not fitting in your trunk and I'm putting up a fight and I can just Debo. You know what I mean? Now I'm the size of a toothpick and they will just take me and I'm not gonna, what am I gonna do? Now the question for you, I would say is like, do you find, cuz I know my answer, I find this. But do you find that now that you are not overweight, people treat you differently.

Clarence Fisher: I was going to ask you that earlier, the first time that I lost a significant amount of weight, cause it's been two times and the first time I was literally, I couldn't handle it. I told you I'm a logical thinker and I am a thinker and it, it shocked me. I was like, that's not what's happening. And then I would go, I went to a conference and it was a conference of the same people. And it was, I mean, it's hitting me now. Like it, they don't tell you.

Sarah Teagle: yep.

Clarence Fisher: How differently people treat you.

Sarah Teagle: It's crazy. It is absolutely mind blowing.

Clarence Fisher: And I was just like, this is not really what that, and you know, I went home. I was like, yeah. So then all that comes back and you know, if you're not careful that can, I blew up again guys. I couldn't handle it. I couldn't. And it sounds so stupid that I couldn't handle the fact that people were opening doors. The fact that people wanted to do things, the fact that people, you know what I'm saying, they're holding the door now. You know what I mean? Like now I expected it. I expected it this time. But yeah, since you ask, does that kind of align with what you were talking about.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah, exactly. And the thing is like, if I think about, I'll give you an example.

Clarence Fisher: As a woman, definitely. For sure. Huh?

Sarah Teagle: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, I could tell you stories. Oh my gosh. It's crazy. So I used to be the cute girl with the cute face, the big girl with the cute face. So I mean, I, there was a, so I had surgery and a year later I go to a work conference I've lost 167 lbs. Literally. Nobody recognizes me. Right. Unless you've been on zoom with me and you work every day to day with me and you're on my team or, you know, the, the, but from the, I mean there's thousands of people in the previous company that I worked with, I'd been there for years. And literally nobody recognized me. I had to walk up to people and be like, Hey, so. And so like, how are you doing? And they were like, I'm like, it's, it's me, my name tag. Right. Like, and I'm like, oh my gosh. Because I look totally different. If you see me then to now I look, I mean, I've lost a person, but I totally look different. And so definitely men it's way different. The type of men are way different.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. Yeah

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. The comments are way different and bold. Like, excuse me, what did you just say? Right. Like what, but I would say like holding of doors, people just ran like just being polite. Like, you know, people were polite, but now I also, I kind of bring it back to like when you're big and you're walking around, like you kind of play that part.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm .

Sarah Teagle: If you think about it, you knowing just me from back in the day, right. Is like, I was not smiling. I was always, you know, I'm the tough girl. Right? I'm hard. I, you know, like, come at me, if you want to type attitude and I've triggered very quickly.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm, .

Sarah Teagle: Where now I'm like, whatever. Okay. Like keep, keep it moving. Right? Like, so my attitude has probably changed a little bit, but I'm not as having to be as defensive or like just walking around guarded, I should say, because you're always as a bigger person, you're always waiting for somebody to say something.

Sarah Teagle: You're always waiting for a comment you're waiting for something to happen. So you can just use that weight to your advantage or just like, what, what did you say? And cuz you're bigger than them, you know? So you're gonna intimidate 'em hopefully. And now I don't have that mechanism cuz I'm literally like, I mean, I can still fight. Don't get me wrong, you know? But it's just totally different to where I'm kind of like quieter and I don't have to like walk into a room and be as boisterous as I once was because that overcompensating your personality. My self-esteem is different in a lot of people when they have low self-esteem they try to overcompensate for their, with their personality. It's just the way it is. Right? Some people won't admit to it or recognize it within them themselves. But somebody that is has a high level of confidence will let their actions speak for themselves.

Sarah Teagle: So when I walk into a room while I used to back in the day, I walk into a room and light it up. I light it up in a different way now. And so it's just your demeanor and your, you know, that kind of changes a little bit. And I think that's with any significant amount of weight loss, right? Whether you have surgery or not, but for your family and friends that are used to you being one certain way, and then you go around, I guarantee you. If I went around our group of friends from back in the day one, the conversations would be totally different. And then two, they would be like, what is wrong with you? Because I carry myself differently than I used to based on my weight. I mean obviously my life journey as well.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm .

Sarah Teagle: Right. Like, but my weight is a huge factor. I mean, it's a huge factor on how you act and how you show yourself in the community or show yourself to your friends. And so yeah, it is totally different people. Open doors. They're nicer to you. They, it's hard to explain, but it's like so different

Clarence Fisher: And I've gotta figure out how to explain it again. This is why I wanted to have these conversations. Because number one, for me hearing from you from another person, the exact same things that I can't verbalize and then so much more special it coming from you that yeah. You know, like we were saying before we even started like this whole, the fact that, okay, just start from Mac Monday and just go all the way to where we are now and then where you're running. Number one, our careers, you know, and we've made that comment just quick messages here. And there is like, well, dang. Oh yeah. But then bring it to even this where you've lost that much weight. I'm at 111, the goal is 150, but now helping other people. So you're helping other people I'm helping other people with this. So I don't know. It's just crazy. God is like, I don't know.

Sarah Teagle: You would've never thought back then that we would be where we are right now. Like it's mind blowing.

Clarence Fisher: Ever ever.

Sarah Teagle: Somebody could have told us how this would unfold. And we would've been like, yeah. Right,

Clarence Fisher: Right. It made it would make no sense. Yeah. It would absolutely make no sense. So let's talk about this because I know there are, you know, as you can imagine, my audience is mainly women and women between 30 and 50. Okay. And big up to you women listening to me. Thank you.

Sarah Teagle: What, what

Clarence Fisher:

Sarah Teagle: I'm in that age range too guys. So don't feel bad.

Clarence Fisher: Well, this is what I'm saying. I, they are relating to you relating to what you're saying relating to your energy and you have Teagle fitness going on. What is that?

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. So Teagle Tough Fitness is a company that I started based on the fact that any person needs support while they're losing weight, whether it's a spouse, whether it's a friend, whether it's your family. I mean, a lot of people don't have that support or it's very scarce and that's whether you have surgery or you don't. And so my company is for anybody and you don't have to have weight loss surgery, but I offer three different memberships. And so the first one is free and you get access to a Facebook page and Clarence you're in there where we literally talk about anything. People post like different recipes. And I post lots of things. There's on my website. You can read my blogs about my journey and just different topics. I normally drop blogs about two times a week. And it's just something new. It talks about pregnancy.

Sarah Teagle: It talks about pregnancy while losing weight, right? Everything is weight related vitamins. How did I get here? Like mental health, being a mom and trying to lose weight. I'm a mom of two young boys. So living a corporate life and staying busy and healthy that's I mean, it's women specifically. They go through a lot of things and there's a lot of stigma around how we should act, how we should look, how, how much we should weigh, what we should be eating, what we should be doing as a wife, what we should be, you know, all of those things. And while losing weight and not having anyone to help you can be exhausting and everything that you do can feel defeating. Like you said, like you go to an outing and you come home and you feel defeated, cuz you've just cheated on and ate some carbs or you've ate something.

Sarah Teagle: You know, you shouldn't have, you need people to understand your journey. And one of the main reasons I did it is I didn't have anyone to understand my journey. Like I literally met people when I was in pre-op appointments and I still am in contact with them today. And those are there's one or two that have known me from the time I started my journey until now obviously I have some longterm friends that may or may not have supported me. I had one that was like, that's the dumbest idea you've ever had. And one that was like, Hey, I got you. That's I'm totally do it. And so the support factor is key and that's what the Facebook group is just for community support. Everybody's sharing their struggles, their battles and things like that. And then also I'm in the process of writing a book just about my journey.

Sarah Teagle: And that'll be, I have no idea when that is coming, but just started on that. But the memberships are key. So there's three different memberships. The second one. So the first one's called Fabulous and Free. The second one is Deliciously Deluxe. So it gives you right so it gives you just different options. It's more generic on meal plans, snack ideas, shopping, trip lists, things like that. And then the MVP is really where you wanna work with me and we have meetings and we really dig in and I make everything custom with you. So it's not, I make it for you. It's that we do it together because this is a journey. And so I offer those services just along with support and encouragement. Like even if you're in my free program, I don't care. Right? Like the thing is is that I wanna help people be successful in this journey because what I found is that that has, that's one of the purposes, God, God has placed in my life.

Sarah Teagle: And he has blessed me with this opportunity. And he has blessed me with not only just a corporate successful career, but also the ability to lose weight and a lot of people like we yo-yo right. And you know, I know we've both done it. And I'm just so thankful that for the last three years I've been on top of my game, cuz at any minute you can trigger, it can trigger. And I feel like, you know, and that's a fear, right? When you lose a significant amount of weight, the fear is man. Like I don't ever want to go back to being big again. Like I have to do everything. It becomes kind of like an unspoken anxiety and it can create some panic like, oh, I just had this like, oh, I'm gonna gain five pounds or you step on the scale every single morning just to make, make sure you haven't gained anything.

Sarah Teagle: Those obsessive behaviors come with food addiction. And so understanding and just having somebody to talk to about it. For me, I've done several podcasts. They're very therapeutic because you and I have never been able to talk about our weight, but you and I have probably had so much of a similar journey. And even just talking to you today, I'm like, man, I never knew that Clarence was going through some of those things. Or I never knew that he felt the way I did because you're man, I'm a woman. Right. You we've, we've had different journeys. But at the end of the day, the support and being there for somebody is huge. And if you don't have anybody, I wanna be that person, Clarence, you wanna be that person, like all these people that are really genuinely wanting to help people. I think that's the biggest thing is we're out here trying to make people aware that food addiction is real, that the weight loss journey is not as easy as people think it is. Maintenance is definitely harder. Especially if you have kids, like imagine that you have to have, you don't have to, but kids are kids, right? Like you want 'em to have access to like fruit snacks, like fun stuff.

Clarence Fisher: You don't want 'em to grow up to be killers. You should . Yeah.

Sarah Teagle: Right. You gotta give 'em a little Debbie snap snack. Right, right. But like, I think about it that I grew up in a house that did not have sweets that did not have little Debbie snacks because we couldn't afford it. We lived off Roman or Roman. That's my son Roman and like rice and just cheap food. Yeah. Because I grew up with a single mom of four kids. So if I'm able to introduce, like I tried broccoli for the first time at 25. Wrap your mind around that 25.

Clarence Fisher: I don't know how old I was. I'm sitting here thinking mom was single with five kids too. I mean, there's like, I don't know, later on, we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to do another episode like later on.

Sarah Teagle: We will cuz you just think about it. There's so many things that go into weight loss and diets and all that. Like just food in general. But, but yeah. I mean check out the website. It's Teagletoughfitness.com.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. And we'll put it in the, uh, show notes too.

Sarah Teagle: That's some of what I do on my TikTok as well. You've seen it, right? Like, yeah. I just try to cause awareness of, I had some people ask me like what about fruits and veggies and things like that. And so as a bariatric patient, you don't wanna eat a lot of fruits cuz they turn into sugar, which sugar then turns into fat. And so apparently like, well you would say losing weight for yourself too. You don't wanna eat a lot of fruit.

Clarence Fisher: Right. For sure.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. So I think that's anybody, you know,

Clarence Fisher: which kills me because I love like if you can't eat the other stuff, then it's like, okay, so I can't eat grapes. I can't like grapes are like crazy, crazy sugar, you know? Yeah.

Sarah Teagle: But you think about it is a lot of people walk around and think that, well, fruit is healthy, but it's not. I used to like watermelon, pineapple, grapes. Like those are my.

Clarence Fisher: The sugar content of a watermelon is like,

Sarah Teagle: Man. And I used to, I mean, I'm talking about, I used to cut up a whole watermelon. Yeah. And I would eat watermelon like sometimes all day, every day

Clarence Fisher: The kids, They, it would get cut up and Hey go sit on the porch and you get this huge like slice.

Sarah Teagle: It's crazy. So it's, there's just so much. But, but yeah, if it's just, I think we're both in a, in a place where we're trying to help other people and it's exciting.

Clarence Fisher: It is. It is. So we'll put the links in the show notes definitely. Before I let you go, this is the tradition. It is the interview deck.

Sarah Teagle: okay.

Clarence Fisher: One question. Okay. This, this is the way this works. I still don't know how to like slice them and dice.

Sarah Teagle: You don't know how to shuffle?

Clarence Fisher: Right. Well, Hey, Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey, I can, I can cut if you cut the deck. I'll this is not the same kind of deck. Alrighty. So all right. Give me a number between one and we won't keep it gimme a number between one and 20 and that's I'm gonna pick that card and you answer that question. Okay? Okay.

Sarah Teagle: These are, these are appropriate questions, correct? Before I agree to. Okay. Making sure you know.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. We're not getting too crazy,

Sarah Teagle: Making sure we're not getting crazy.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. It's not not too crazy.

Sarah Teagle: I'm gonna pick number. Mm I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with number 20.

Clarence Fisher: Oh, dang good. Okay. Here we go. What? I don't even know if I can count that. I just, I say what?

Speaker 2: Okay, we'll go With number 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 there's ten one two three, four, five. That's how they do at the bank. right. 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Cause I'm always like, why do you, why do you stop at 10 anyway?

Sarah Teagle: Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: Okay. Here's the question.

Sarah Teagle: All right. Drum roll.

Clarence Fisher: So who was the best boss you ever had and what made them the best?

Sarah Teagle: Me? No, I'm just kidding. That was everybody else's question that has ever worked for you. just kidding.

Clarence Fisher: I'm like she's taking this self confidence thing a little far. Isn't yeah.

Sarah Teagle: I take it to the extreme, right? Yeah, no, I'm just kidding. The best boss I have ever worked for. Whew. Okay. I would say I'm not gonna say their name, but there was a boss that I have worked for and she, okay. I'm gonna break it down in a little corporate manner.

Clarence Fisher: Hmm. Translator stand by.

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. Right. Corporate world is still a man's world.

Clarence Fisher: Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Sarah Teagle: Yeah. And put that out there. So I'm sorry for all the guys watching that are in corporate America, but a woman in leadership is very empowering. I'm I've been in leadership for over 20 years, but somebody that this leader in particular was very connected to do personality types, a lot in the corporate world. And so if you know anything about different personality types, there's like a feeler right. And very InTouch and like feels emotions. And that's how they operate. I'm the opposite. I'm a controller and I'm very matter of fact, like, Hey, we don't have time for feelings here. Okay. People now over the years. Yeah. I know. That's you two, I know over the years, right. Of working with this leader, I, it started to rub off on me. Right? It's like the compassion behind this person in leadership was very inspiring to me.

Sarah Teagle: And it helped me become a better leader because while you do want to be, you know, not necessarily a hard, which, you know, we all have, you gotta get your stuff done. You gotta run a business. I'm in operations, like you have to run a business. That's just how you run a business. And so sometimes a lot of people get caught up in that and forget that we're all human and that leader I'm forever grateful that I worked with her. One, it was a female. And then two, just that, that gift that she gave me by watching her be a leader and understanding that there's a time and a place to have feelings, there's a time and a place not to incorporate America. And as women were judged a lot on, women are emotional. And so being a feeler or being more in tune and compassionate can sometimes come off as we're weak. And that's not the case, actually a leader that is very well rounded as she was in the action portion and compassion to accomplish the business goals to me is very admirable and inspiring. And she stood up for exactly who she was and what she believed in at all times and showed true character. And so for me, that would be the best boss that I ever worked for.

Clarence Fisher: That is so awesome. It is awesome that seriously, that you were even open enough to receive that lesson from a feeler because a lot of thinking types won't, you know, and man, I'm so glad that I'm getting to know this Sarah. It's one thing to see it from a distance. And another thing have conversation

Sarah Teagle: Was say, I, we have ever really had a conversation about years.

Clarence Fisher: We haven't, we haven't like maybe

Sarah Teagle: Texting or like, you know, through Facebook, but really we haven't, that's crazy.

Clarence Fisher: Right? Like this is it like

Sarah Teagle: Next time in and I'm in town, we're gonna have to like go for a walk. see. See, I was gonna say hike, I don't don't there's no mountains in Oklahoma.

Clarence Fisher: Whoah! Just, just the Turkey.

Sarah Teagle: Is there hiking trail?

Clarence Fisher: It's just the Turkey, just the Turkey mountain. That's it. You know,

Sarah Teagle: There we go. We'll go for a walk.

Clarence Fisher: You're giving me a lot of time today and you know, I'm gonna lean on the friendship I think is what is what that is. But I appreciate it. I really do.

Sarah Teagle: Yes. I appreciate you inviting me to, to have a chat. We gotta do this more often on and off the podcast.

Clarence Fisher: Absolutely. Absolutely. So when you hit your, what goal do we hit for you on your, do you have a membership goal for your either Facebook or your Twitter or your TikToks?

Sarah Teagle: Yeah, so I'm trying to hit, well, I'm far off, but I'm trying to hit at least 2000 followers right now on TikTok. That's my goal. Okay. So I'm almost there for that. I have 40 members currently, so I'm looking to double that absolutely. Within 60 days. So those are just some short term goals that I have for my business.

Clarence Fisher: Boom! Done, like, like, like I just waved and it's done, go follow her on TikTok. And when you get there, look up the Iggy Azelia video and you'll get a small glimpse of what it was like back in the day. Sarah, thank you so much.

Sarah Teagle: You're welcome. Thank you.

Clarence Fisher: Thank you, Sarah. And thank you so much for listening. Thanks for tuning in. I appreciate you so much. Please subscribe to the show and if you have time head over to apple podcast, leave us a rating and review. I can't wait to share next week's episode with you until then go to 100PoundParty.com. Join the free newsletter for more tips and strategies on how to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good. You can also join our free Facebook group as well. Speaking of Facebook, if you love this episode, take a screenshot, share it on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn tag me, Clarence Fisher, #100poundparty. And like I said, subscribe on apple podcast or wherever you listen. Well, that's it for this episode until next. Remember let's to take slight rights to success, make it fun, make it easy. Celebrate often and you'll win.

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Teaser: On today's episode...It's doable. And the more knowledge that I've gained and the more like, um, I guess, work that I've put into it on learning how to eat healthier and learning, you know, shortcuts to being able to eat healthier. It is doable. Even when you're busy, even when you're a single mom, there are ways to eat healthy and quickly on a budget. Prepare yourself. Okay, let's go!

Clarence Fisher: This week, we're talking with joy Tillman, a busy nurse, single mom of four kids who lost 100 pounds about the challenges she faced along her journey and what finally worked for her. In our conversation, she shares the secret to eating healthy for busy people who are on a budget. She actually gives specific examples of things that you can eat, how she combats a bad body image. And while I had a nurse on the line, I had to ask what is the best way for heavier people to survive COVID? Don't go anywhere. Welcome to the party!

Intro: Welcome to the 100 Pound Party Podcast with Big Juice, uncovering weight loss, tips, tools, and strategies used by everyday people to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good.

Clarence Fisher: All right. Welcome to the hundred. I don't even know if I'm gonna say hundred Pound Party Podcast or the 100 Pound Party Podcast, if I want to eight, but welcome. I have no idea what I'm doing with this thing right now, but what I do Joy, welcome to the podcast.

Joy Tillman: Hi Clarence. Thank you.

Clarence Fisher: You are the very first guest on,

Joy Tillman: Oh my gosh. I'm the inaugural hundred pound party podcast. Oh, wow. I'm so honored.

Clarence Fisher: I don't even know how to spell that, but it's but you are that and

Joy Tillman: I N A U G U R A L I think.

Clarence Fisher: Oh, okay. I think that was a rap song. Wouldn't I N a no, not

Joy Tillman: Exactly. I think it was, that was independent. I know that one.

Clarence Fisher: All right. Alright. All right. So, uh, it's gonna be a party, you know, and I have no idea just like a party. I have no idea. What's kind of gonna go on. The purpose of this is to just, I just wanna know the real stories of people who have lost significant amounts weight. Our milestone is 100 pounds. And the way that the whole a hundred pound thing got started was I needed to lose 150 pounds to even get back down to what most people consider normal or what doctors consider normal. And I started off trying to do that and then quickly, you know, I had some success and then quickly, you know how it goes like you bounce back. And I was like, I can't do this by myself. And so we started the, or I started this little Facebook group, which you are in and was like, Hey, there's gotta be other people. So anyway, we snowball to this and I'm like, you were actually the very first person in the group to lose a hundred pounds.

Joy Tillman: Oh, okay.

Clarence Fisher: Did you know that?

Joy Tillman: No, I didn't.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah.

Joy Tillman: I know he had a, there was somebody else, maybe it was a cousin or something who was doing really well. They were looking great. They were posting pictures and stuff. I didn't know how much they'd lost though,

Clarence Fisher: Man. That's what happens though. It's like, okay, we're doing great. Doing great, doing great. Doing, doing whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, and then we don't hit it. So you, no, you were the, you were the first and even when you did hit it was funny when you hit the a hundred pounds and you, you posted like, all right, Hey guys, I just wanna let you know, I did it

Joy Tillman: Because I didn't trust myself to keep it off. And I still don't. I mean, I'm still, I had gotten to like 120 or more pounds gone and now I've gained a good 20 some back. So I'm fluctuating right around that hundred pound mark. Some days I'm over it. Some days I'm back under it.

Clarence Fisher: you're like, why?

Joy Tillman: You know what I mean? So that's the thing it's like, I know I've lost hundreds of pounds over the years. We all have people. Who've struggled. I think like you and I, I don't wanna speak for you, but people who've struggled like me. I have lost hundreds of pounds over the years. I've never lost a hundred pounds, but I mean, I have struggled with my weight for the majority of my adult life. And I'm 42 years old now. And so I wasn't an overweight kid, but man, I feel like right after I had my first kid, I started putting it on and never could kind of get back on track after that. And I had my first kid very young. I was 19. So it's been a roller coaster of weight and, and loving my body along the way. And those are things I still work on. So,

Clarence Fisher: And you were not an overweight kid?

Joy Tillman: No, I was not an overweight kid. I was not okay. I was not athletic. I was not fat though. Like I look, I thought I was fat because I was a teenage girl, but I look back at those pictures and I was, and I had a dad that was not supportive. He would, I think it started when I was a teenager and he would kind of like poke my belly and say, you need to do some situps, you need to run some laps. And I was not overweight. I was not, I probably weighed, I was, you know what, I'm five, fiveish in that area. And I was like one twenties, one 30s and that's within a healthy BMI in every range. Did I have muscle mass and tone? And did I have a figure? I thought I did. Okay. But you know what I mean? Like athleticism was important to him and I was not an athlete and my brothers and sisters were. And so I don't think, I think as with most parents, they just do stupid things and don't realize it, trying to be helpful. And he was, that was part of the start of my really bad body image, you know? So

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm

Joy Tillman: And I still carry to this day.

Clarence Fisher: Isn't that crazy? How that happens. How were you able to, well, I know both of you and I have done a lot of, mental work and, and I think that's kind of what you end up having to go through and do, but when you trace that back, does it help you to know, it's kind of a side note, but does it help you to be able to go back and say, okay, this, this is when it started.

Joy Tillman: It helps you with knowledge, but getting your head knowledge down into your heart and soul is not an easy process.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm .

Joy Tillman: And it's not a permanent process. That's one of the things that I've learned, coz I've done a lot of self-help over the years. I have done some, all kinds of counseling, some really good Christian counseling. I've done the journey training where you and I met. I've done Celebrate Recovery, I've done the walk to a Maus. I've done you know what I mean? Like I've done so many things to like learn how to love myself, holy and unconditionally. And it's still, it's a continual work in process. It is a choice I have to make to get up and either love myself or not love myself on a daily basis. So,

Clarence Fisher: Hmm. That is so real because I mean, it is a constant battle, which is like at what point. So if, if you're kind of going through this and you know, you hit body image, you hit steam in that and all that. So at what point do you realize, okay, this is not going to get like, I, I need to make a change in your physical body. Like at what point did you say, Hey, I'm going to, I, I need to lose weight and then I'm gonna go down that road. Cause you said you've lost hundreds, which most of us, and you can speak for us. We've lost hundreds of pounds. Yeah. Do you remember when that aha was?

Joy Tillman: Yeah, I was pregnant with my daughter who is now 19 and I did not, I don't think I realized the amount of, cause I was at a pretty healthy, I mean, I had gained a little weight when I got married. I don't remember what I was when I got married, but then I had gained a little weight afterwards and I wanna say I was around 150 or 170 when I got pregnant with my son and I got up, you know, I gained the normal 30 to 40 pounds with a kid and then I lost that and I actually got under it and I was back like 150s to 160s or something, which was technically, probably about 10 or 15 pounds overweight for me out of your, if we're talking BMI, which I don't love, but we'll talk BMI cuz it's easy.

Joy Tillman: But anyway, and then I, somehow I don't, I, I didn't realize that I had gained weight between having him and getting pregnant with her there's there's four years apart. So she was about three when I got pregnant with her and he turned four right before I had her. And the last she was due in December, December 16th, I had her November 20th after spending a week in the hospital because I put on bed, been put on bedrest for like high blood pressure. I never actually got preeclamptic, but I had been on bedrest at home. And then my blood pressure was high. Again, they couldn't control it with meds. They admitted me to the hospital. They tried for a few days, couldn't get it down. And the OB was finally like, you can't go home. We've either gotta deliver her or you're gonna stay in the hospital.

Joy Tillman: And this was four weeks early. So we went over pros and cons. I had her four weeks early and my sister who's also struggled with weight, had been doing weight Watchers and been very successful. And she said, I'm getting you a, that was like her gift to me. She was like, we're gonna weight Watchers. We're gonna get this weight off of you. We're both gonna lose weight together. And I'm like, okay, perfect. So I did and I was a very successful, I lost, I think I was around 235 when I started weight Watchers and I lost like 50 pounds in a short amount of time, like six months or something. It came off super easy. The first time I actually gave it a go and then I like gained weight. I had gotten up right around 200 pounds again and got pregnant with my son and then my last three kids or two years and two months apart.

Joy Tillman: So I spent the last several years of my marriage, either pregnant or nursing and never really lost the weight again. And then I went through a divorce, gained weight, and then I went through nursing school as a single mom to four young children. My weight went up and down. I would like, I've done everything from, you know, the weight Watchers to Plexus. Let's throw any, any MLM thing that you can think of I've probably done it. Oh my gosh. I bought H C G from Canada and mixed it and injected it into myself.

Clarence Fisher: Did you really?

Joy Tillman: Yes I did. Yes I did. I was in, I almost did that. I was in nursing school, so I knew everything as a nursing student. I knew it was safe. And anyway, so yeah, I did that and ate very little. I was like, I don't know.

Joy Tillman: It was like an apple for breakfast and a salad with no dressing for lunch. And I don't know some, maybe a piece of chicken for dinner. Like you're eating very little. Like I don't even think I cleared 800 calories, but of course I lost weight. But then as soon as I quit doing that, I gained it back. I just did your I've done diet pills. I've done just your hardcore. Let's just exercise and eat. Right. And everything can be successful, but it's gotta be. I mean, this is something I think we all know by now. You've gotta be able to stick with it. My sister who had, who lost weight with weight Watchers gained weight back again. She has been very successful with keto. A lot of people have a very negative connotation to keto. It's been wonderful for her. She was a diabetic on, I wanna say like a hundred units of insulin a day.

Joy Tillman: I could be over exaggerating, but she takes no insulin anymore. She's been able to either come off or cut back cholesterol and blood pressure medication. And she's running again training for like half marathons and marathons and she sticks and a half years older than me, you know? So, so ketos been very effective for her and she has found a way to live on it. She loves it. She doesn't miss the carbs. She's found substitutes for things she likes, you know? And so, and she'll cheat or whatever every now and then, but usually she feels like crap and gets right back on it, you know, know. So her, with her insulin resistance, that's been very effective for her. And like I said, anybody can lose weight on anything as long as you're in a calorie deficit. And so it's just a matter of finding what's gonna work for you.

Clarence Fisher: That that's a, I mean, you hit on a lot there. I mean, I think after we try so many things, it does come down to probably just out of a pure exhaustion, trying to figure out what works for you. You know, you come to this realization that, okay. Weight Watchers, wasn't it. And then this wasn't it. And that wasn't it. And this wasn't it. And that wasn't it. You know what, I'm just tired. Like what, what, what, what did work? And that I had the least chance of falling off, you know what I mean? So like, like what, what can I do?

Joy Tillman: Yeah. Well, what I did, what to lose the a hundred pounds sort of to lose the a hundred pounds was I had gastric bypass. Now here's the thing with gastric bypass. People think it's the easy way out or whatever. It, it is very, defeatable a lot of people have the vertical sleeve gastrectomy or the gastric bypass like I had, or, you know, there's different things. There's actually, when you get into that world, you find out there's actually several surgeries, not just a couple that we all talk about that you can have, but you can gain the weight back on there. I'm living proof. And you can also, and like, you know, when I went through that, I had hit, I had hit a high, I had hit like my highest ever. And I was like, okay, something's gotta change. I was probably, I say prediabetic, but probably would've needed to be put on Metformin or something.

Joy Tillman: Had I not had the surgery, I had high blood pressure and I was like 39. And I was like, this is not okay. And I, and everything I had tried, I tried multiple times. So like, you know, I had a lot of success on Weight Watchers. I tried it again. I never could get back to that success. There was a point after the journey when I was working out five and six days a week, like hard workouts, like CrossFit style workouts with Mike Watkins in, at his group. And really I felt like eating pretty well. You know what I mean? And it was just such a struggle. And, and I like, again, I would have some success, but then it was like, I would hit this plateau where I could not break through. And then, you know, I had some like bouts of depression where I just totally didn't take care of myself and my weight skyrocketed.

Clarence Fisher: And that's when I finally kind of hit rock bottom. It was covered by my insurance. And so I just bit the bullet and did it. And I had lost a good amount of weight, but I hadn't hit the a hundred pounds. And after you're a couple of years out, they kind of let you know, you kind of lost the effects of the surgery. Of course, if you have that surgery, any of those, you're gonna lose weight rapidly in the beginning because you cannot eat. You cannot eat. And so it's, it's an extreme calorie deficit, but then the inflammation and the swelling goes down and you're able to eat more and more and more. And I can eat a pretty much normal meal now. I can't eat what I did before, because previously I could probably put away a whole large pizza. If I wanted to. Now I, now I can eat like a normal, what a normal person would eat. You know what I mean? So my stomach is to the size of probably normalness at this point.

Clarence Fisher: Surgery is temporary?

Joy Tillman: It's not temporary per se. I mean, for instance, last night I ate, I make chicken. My kids love it. It's their favorite meal. It's not healthy. It's literally cheese spaghetti and chicken , but it's their favorite meal right. So I'll make it for 'em every now and then my daughter had been asking for it. I've been gone a lot. And so I haven't been even home to cook for them. They've been fending for theirselves a lot. And so I was like, yeah, I'll make the hotel chicken on Tuesday when you're off work. And so we had it with little Texas toast, garlicy breads or whatever that you buy in the freezer section. And I was able to eat a piece of that and a piece of toast, which right after my surgery, I could not have eaten any of that. I couldn't even eat rice right after my surgery. I mean, you can eat like you, you do broth and then you do soft foods and then you do, but yeah. So your stomach will stretch. You can totally like gain all the weight back by eating inappropriately. So yeah, it's not, it's not full, it's not failproof, you know what I mean? So,

Clarence Fisher: So let me ask you this, because I've always wondered. And you know, when I was like 330 or something like that, I could have probably, well, I, no, no doubt I could have qualified for the surgery. And I just kinda thought about it and kept going back and forth, back and forth and back and forth until I got till now. I just, I wouldn't even qualify. I don't think cuz you have to be what you gotta be a, do you have to be a hundred pounds to even qualify for that?

Joy Tillman: No. Well, they look at your BMI and I wanna say your BMI has to be 40 or it has to be 30 something with comorbidity. So like sleep apnea, high blood pressure, diabetes, those kind of things.

Clarence Fisher: Oh really? I didn't know. Uh it was 30 something with

Joy Tillman: Yeah. Yeah. If you have, uh, I think two comorbidities and also it depends on your insurance and it depends on how risky you are because you can probably go to Mexico and get it done when you're not even overweight. So there

Clarence Fisher: My thought was was if you have to eat and exercise, then why go there?

Joy Tillman: Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: So what was your, you know, and I, and I've, I've heard, I've had friends that say, Hey, that's the only way that I was gonna force myself to change. Is that how you felt or

Joy Tillman: Well, okay. So when I originally, I'll tell you, I can remember the exact process I had. I was calling to make an appointment. You just have to get in for like an evaluation. First, you have to go to like a seminar and then you have to go in for like your first eval or whatever. And I was having a really hard time because I felt like one of their doctors got really ill. And so they were having to shuffle people around or something. And I kept, they kept having to reschedule my appointment and it was like two to three weeks before they could get me in for an appointment. And I finally was like, you know what, maybe this is a sign that I shouldn't even do this. And the person I was on the phone with, she was like, let me let you talk to one of our navigators or something like that.

Joy Tillman: And so I talked to this guy and he was like, and he pretty much laid out my weight loss journey, what I had done with how I had tried everything. And it worked well the first time it went the second and third time or fifth time, or however many times it didn't work for me anymore. And I, and again, like I said, I felt like I had worked really hard and been really diligent and, and like, I couldn't get out of the two hundreds, you know, I'd be like two twenties, two thirties. And you know, and I'm not a huge girl. I'm 5 5", 5 6", you know? I mean, that's where I that's, I'm not, you know what I mean? Like what's considered a healthy rate. Weight range for me is 120 to one 150.

Clarence Fisher: mm-hmm .

Joy Tillman: And so even working my hardest and exercising five and six days a week, sometimes two and three workouts a day and eating what I felt like was pretty healthy. I just could not break through there's and I don't know if, if guys are like this, but most women have like a number on the scale that if they could just see that number for me, it's, if I could just get under 200 pounds, I would be happy. I wouldn't be happy and I wouldn't be done, but that's like been like a goal of mine for so long. And so I just, I was just literally like, I don't know what else to do at this point. I feel, I felt like I had tried everything. I felt like nothing worked. And so I did this and, and honestly it's a major surgery and I had some not, I wouldn't say, but I struggled with the pre-surgery diet and I was really dehydrated and my kidneys took a little bit of a hit and it was kind of scary.

Joy Tillman: I was a little worried, you know, it was literally, it was like I said, mostly a hydration issue. But as a nurse, when I looked at my labs, I was like, if I saw these labs with no other information, I would think we needed to be talking about dialysis for this patient. You know? And so, so then like, you know, I was telling them in the hospital, I was like, could you please just give me some fluids, please just gimme some fluids. And they acted like that was, I don't know, they just didn't wanna do it. So they gave me like a liter of fluids and then he was like, you can stay another night if you want. And I'm like, no, that's okay. I'll go home and take care of it myself. And I did, I went home and took care of it myself, you know?

Joy Tillman: So, and you know, two weeks later I did, my checkup did labs. Everything was fine, but I mean, you know, that's something to take into consideration is that there are no, you know what I mean? Like just do like doing the HCG from Canada, who knows, who knows what you're injecting in your body going and taking diet pills. Those are not a healthy thing to do, but they work for people. If you're otherwise healthy, having a major surgery, you really need to take into consideration whether or not have you really exhausted at all your efforts. And like I said, I lost over a hundred pounds, but I still hadn't gotten to where I wanted. I still wanted to lose another like 30ish pounds or so. And then COVID hit, I haven't been in the gym and over a year I've been traveling. So there's been a lot more eating out, a lot more eating on the road, living out of hotel rooms. And so I tried to come home as much as possible. And I'm in school full time this year I have three teenagers so, so I've gained weight back. I've gained a, a good 20 to 30 pounds back then now I need to like get back off again. And so it's just, you know what I mean? Like there's no perfect scenario. There's no one size fits all.

Clarence Fisher: That's what I was gonna ask you is I know you're a nurse and you've got children now, you know, and like how it's, it's crazy. Like, I don't have any of those stressors in my life and it's still difficult. So yeah. So how the heck did do, did you lose, you know, I know the bypass and everything, but like, how do you, how do you eat? Well, especially like with kids, I mean, the way you, the way that we ate when I grew up was whatever could feed all of us pretty economically. And that was not necessarily the best stuff to eat. So yeah. You know, my mom ate that as well. So like how do you make it work?

Joy Tillman: Yeah, it's hard. You know what I mean? Like, especially when I was single mom with four kids going to nursing school, little Caesar's pizzas are five bucks and two pizzas would feed us and that you, I really couldn't go make a healthy meal for 10 bucks, you know, at the grocery store with fruits and veggies and protein and healthy carbs. I mean, it's just, and the time that it took to do that, so it's incredibly hard. I think that's why it fluctuated so much. And then, like I said, of course, when I had the bypass surgery, you physically cannot eat. You will damage yourself or get sick . So that forced me to eat in an extreme calorie restriction because for the first week, or I can't remember how the diet goes, but it's like a week or two, you can only have liquids and then you can have soft foods which are like soups.

Joy Tillman: And maybe like, I feel like I ate cottage cheese and Greek yogurt and, we fried beans. Those are things that you could eat. You could like, it had to be like a puree diet. And I was not about to puree chicken in the blender that did not sound good to me. And so that really kind of got me down to where I had, but I had been there before I had been, because when I had my bypass surgery, I weighed, like I said, I was at my top. I wanna say, I wanna say 328 or something like that crazy high amount right? And like I said, that got me down to, I think I lost like 75 ish pounds, real easy, real easy, real quick. And then I wasn't doing what I knew I needed to do, but so in 2019 before COVID a girlfriend of mine was like, I wanna get back into CrossFit.

Joy Tillman: I wanna get back into working out. And so we joined a gym together and we were pretty consistent, you know, working out four to five days a week, eating well, I had a trip planned to Jamaica at the end of the year. So I was very motivated. I did some weight loss challenges with some friends, drank protein shakes for a couple meals a day. So it's such a mind thing. I know what to do, and I know how to do what I need to do. So if I want to do it, I need to just do it. You know what I mean? Like protein shakes, they're not the end all Be all, but they're great for busy people who don't have time to meal prep, you know, and don't have time to do it. There are plenty of things out there you can do. They sell these like tuna and chicken packages that have like anywhere from like 10 to 15 grams of protein and around a hundred or less calories.

Joy Tillman: And they're about a dollar at Walmart. So it's doable. And the more knowledge that I've gained and the more like, I guess, work that I've put into it on learning how to eat healthier and learning shortcuts to being able to eat healthier. It is doable even when you're busy, even when you're a single mom, like I personally like a can of tuna, which is what 50 cents or something.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm .

Joy Tillman: And I don't mind mixing it with without mayonnaise, but if you do mix it with mayonnaise, that's not bad. And whatever you like to mix your tuna with, and I'll dip carrots in it, you know, that's something that I don't not enjoy. So there are ways to eat healthy and quickly on a budget. You just have to be willing. You kind of have to get some knowledge, because I, it's not a knowledge I had because growing up, I grew up without a lot of money.

Joy Tillman: Our, our meals were not healthy, a lot of fried. That's what my, my parents liked, you know, and my dad was not overweight. So like, you know, we'd eat fried things. Vegetables for us were like corn. You know, I don't know that I ate even broccoli for sure. Not asparagus until I was an adult, things like that. And so I don't know that I had many salads as a kid, or, you know what I mean? Like it just, I did not have a variety of food of healthy food and I didn't know how to eat healthy. So it's something I for sure had to learn. And you don't even really learn it. Like I, yeah, I'm a nurse, but you don't even real. I mean, I had to take a nutrition class and I don't even think I had to take that for nursing.

Joy Tillman: I think it was an elective that I chose to take. I mean, so, you know.

Clarence Fisher: ,

Joy Tillman: It's really sad how poorly we educate people with health and nutrition and we just don't make it a priority when we're younger. And even when we're older and, and our life is so busy, that's something that I was talking different about the other day. I think, as Americans, I don't know. I feel like when I talk to people, they're like, man, that just, that just, you're just always busy. And I'm like, I am always busy and I have always been busy and I don't know how to not be busy. So I am gonna have to make my life work around that

Clarence Fisher: Yet. And you have in it, and it it's a couple of questions. Did you, have you noticed, and this was just kind of a weird thing when you said, do you don't know if guys have a number we do. you know, we have a number I have not hit my number, but it is something that you're right. Like if I could just touch that, I don't really care if I bounce back 20 right now, you know what I'm saying? I just need to touch that. But years ago it was probably about, mm, I don't know. It was about 12 years that I got to my lowest in adult weight that I can remember. But I, I do remember almost I was getting frustrated internally because I saw people actually treat me differently. And I couldn't tell if it was in my head.

Joy Tillman: Oh, yeah.

Clarence Fisher: Or did I'm do you, have you experienced that?

Joy Tillman: Oh my gosh. Yes. Clarence I'm single. . There's a huge difference in what I looked like before and what I looked like now. And even though I'm not where I wanna be and bless their little hearts. They don't know what this looks like without clothes on, so sweet of them. But I mean, when you've lost a hundred pounds and had four children, things just don't sit the way they used to. Right. But yeah. And, but it not just guys, it's not just guys. I mean, I feel like I, I had some friends and again, bless their hearts. I remember being a hundred. I mean, even now I'm overweight. I am not at a healthy weight still at this point in my life, I still need to do have more work to do. And my friends will be like, you're not fat or you're not this, or you're not fat.

Joy Tillman: And I'm like, I love that you see me in a good light, but that does nothing for me because it's not true. The fact of the matter is I am overweight and I, you know what I mean? Like I had one girlfriend who was like, oh, you're blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said I think I had posted a meme with someone holding a sign for like a runner. And it said, remember when you were fat and now you're, you know, you're running this 5k or whatever. And I was like, I need somebody to do this for me. She was like, I'll hold the sign, but you're not fat. And I was like, oh, but Abby, I am. And so some people, and I showed another friend of before and Arine, she's like, I don't ever remember you being that big. So there are people who love you and don't see your size, but the general public sees your size.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah.

Joy Tillman: And they do look at you a little bit differently. I feel like, you know, you feel, and, and some of that could be my own insecurities for sure. But I do feel there's a little bit difference in the way people treat you, doors that get held for you, you know, and things like that. Even. I mean, so

Clarence Fisher: It's real. I was just wondering, cuz I was like, people were being nicer to me, like yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, is this is this is this real, you know? And then, so it's true. I closed more sales, you know? And, and then I got frustrated, like, why is that? Like, why? But I guess.

Joy Tillman: Think of it because of this. I feel, this is my theory. We look at overweight people as lazy and it doesn't necessarily mean they're lazy. We think of them as not caring about themselves. I mean, think of it. You can't call someone that fat, lazy, blah, blah, blah. Right. That's negative connotation. You can't be like, oh, that thin girl, you know, I mean, nobody's gonna take that as an insult. So

Clarence Fisher: I do. I talk about skinny people all the time.

Joy Tillman: yeah. I'm like that person over there. Oh, they're disgusting. You know, but seriously, I mean like we, it is an it's, there's such a negative connotation with being overweight and the majority of people are not over. Some of 'em just don't care, you know? I mean, and, and they're like, whatever, I'm fine. There's the whole, oh my gosh. I can't even think of it. Like, there's the whole love of your body at every size and health at every size and all that. Right. And I'm not trying to discount me that you should love yourself because I mean, man, it's hard. You can't hate yourself better. Right? You can't hate yourself, better. Something that you hate is really hard to put out time and effort into. Right. It's much better to love yourself better.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. I, yeah. I, I agree. So that, so the other, and you're a nurse I gotta ask you is COVID real?

Joy Tillman: Yes. It's very real. I have done mostly working in COVID ICU for the last year. Cuz I have a skillset and I was able to, I did some traveling just around Oklahoma. Oklahoma city, Tahlequah Midwest city, Tulsa area. But yes, very real. I think a lot of people, so many people , I've gotten into conversations about it and it, some of them have gotten it heated because it's one thing. If somebody is asking me, like you ask me, and then I, I had a guy ask me one time, but is it real? And I could tell the way he asked me that he just, he didn't believe it. And I'm like, yeah, it's very real. I mean, it's not just the flu. It is, it is a bad virus. It's a highly contagious virus. It's a new virus. It's a virus that we didn't know how to treat.

Joy Tillman: And so it was scary. When it got to Oklahoma and I was working with COVID patients, I sent my children to go live with their dad for a month because I didn't know, we didn't know what was gonna happen. And our plan was for them to stay with him until two weeks after my last COVID patient. Well, thank God we didn't do that because a year later I still wouldn't have seen my children.

Clarence Fisher: Wow. Wow.

Joy Tillman: So I finally called him after a month and I said, there's not gonna be a last COVID patient. And I can't not have my kids with me, so I'm gonna do everything I can to keep them safe. And if you're concerned about them bringing it to you and your wife, then they can stay with me and you don't have to take them. But I can't not have I can't.

Joy Tillman: I know that I can't live my life without my children in it . And so I, you know, and I worked ICU, so I had a little bit more protection than maybe somebody who's like first line, like, you know, your first responders in your ER and your urgent care workers, because they don't know what's walking in. By the time they came to me, usually we had a good idea that they were COVID positive. And then we finally got rapid tests available every now and then those every now and then there was some fails that happened. And we didn't find out until after we already had 'em that they were code, but we usually at least had an idea and we could, you know, prepare for that. And I did everything as far as I know, I haven't got, got it, had it or my children haven't had it.

Joy Tillman: None of us, my oldest son got it, but he doesn't live at home. And he's, and he's was 22 at the time. And it was still scared for me as a mom, because I had seen 30 year olds die from it and I'd seen 90 year olds recover from it. And it felt like kind of just playing Russian Roulette with who was gonna live and die from COVID because we really we're just guessing and grasping at straws on how to treat it. There were some studies that some medications worked and some therapies worked. And then the majority of those things at some point are refuted, but that's kind of how medicine works. Medicine is we think this works. We're gonna give it a try. And then it either works well. Or we come back and we're like, oh no, wait, actually that's not working.

Joy Tillman: We don't, it's like there a placebo effect or they just got better. But you know, I've seen people that were otherwise very healthy, be very sick from this virus. And I have worked everything from ICU, oncology, palliative care hospice. I worked on the floor at St. John's, where they sent all the people who were comfort measures and dying. So I've dealt with a lot of death and dying in my nursing career. And this was the most death that I had seen. And, you know, we had weeks when it got really bad when our death toll was really high in Oklahoma, where we were literally tagging and bagging bodies every night, meaning that, you know, somebody would die every night and we were preparing them for the morgue or the funeral home. I worked at a small hospital. It was purely COVID, but we ran out of, we were running out of refrigeration one night.

Joy Tillman: If one more, we had stacked people and if one more person had died, then, then there was a possibility that they would have to be out in the hall until we could get someone to come and pick them up. So it was rough. It took its toll on me mentally and physically, I have questioned whether I've made the right decisions with the traveling that I've done and the work that I've done and being away from my kids, as much as I have this year, it's been a rough year for them with distance learning and other tragedies that have just happened. And so it's just been, it's been hard. It's been a hard year I decided it was, I would go back to school. So I've been in school full time. I've worked full time, sometimes 50 and 60 hours a week. My kids have been distance learning. We've lost people close to us, you know? So it's been a lot.

Clarence Fisher: This is, um, it it's crazy. I, I would see kind of on Facebook, some of the, some of the posts that you would make and then, and I've told you, thank you. And I really do thank you for just doing it. It's kind of, I look at it kind of like, you don't really understand what nurses and doctors and even soldiers and like do when crap really hits the fan and you have to, and you lace up and you go to work and I'm super grateful and thankful. And I, yeah, I don't get to, you don't get to talk or I don't get to talk very often to somebody who's like, like you said, you, you in the ICU, which means thankfully this whole time, my wife or I don't believe that we've had it and we've lost a couple of family, but they were kind of fringe family. And I have a lot of family who are like, Hey, when it's your time and no, I'm not getting vaccinated and stuff like that. So it, over time, I think a person can think, is it real? Like everything that I see, I'm seeing numbers on a piece of paper I'm being told this, but unless you can get a real story from someone, I think who is, who is actually seeing what's happening, it is kind of hard to you're sheltered basically. Yeah.

Joy Tillman: And I think it's confusing for the general public too, because you have healthcare people who have come out with inaccurate information and who's to say, why, why should you believe me over somebody else? You know? I mean, I understand that I can only speak to what I know. I feel like for the most part, we did the best that we could with a situation that we weren't prepared for. And, you know, I can remember the beginning. People like, like for teachers, even wanting them to get back in the classroom and teach and nurses, and they were like, this is what you signed up for. And I'm like, no, no, it's not what we signed up for. We did not sign up to work through a global pandemic. I signed up to do a lot of hard things that a lot of people don't wanna do.

Joy Tillman: And I get that. I'm not complaining about all the gross things that I have to do on a regular basis, but man, and everything we'd been taught, that was one thing that was frustrating in the beginning when there was such a PPE shortage. So the N95s that we wear, the most common thing that people are gonna know is we wear those with tuberculosis patients. I can count on one hand, the amount of times I've taken care of a tuberculosis patient. So the fact that I haven't even had to wear N95s that often, and then now it's like, every time I go to work, that's what I'm putting on. And, you know, I had friends, I worked at a facility where they gave us an N95 to make it like until when. And then there was one night when I had a patient and we didn't have any of the correct fitting in N95s for me.

Joy Tillman: And I was taking care of him that night. And I was like, well, let's just hope. Let's just hope it works out. I mean, he was intubated. So I felt like it was pretty well contained. Wasn't blowing around in the air, but it's still, you know, it's a scary thought to think. I don't know. You know what I mean? I don't know. And we didn't know. We didn't know whether how it was most likely. I still think we don't know. And I still think there's information out there that is either not given to us or we just don't know.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm, , mm-hmm, ,

Joy Tillman: It is contagious. It is more contagious than the flu. I don't know if it's always airborne or if it's aerosolized. I mean, I still don't know these things. I'm grateful that the people that I love and that I have stayed healthy through this that my kids have stayed healthy, my close friends at work and stuff and stayed healthy.

Joy Tillman: But yeah, I mean, we're taught our whole life that, you know, these, these masks and these gowns and the, and gloves you put 'em on, you get in the room, you get out of the room, you do your, you know, you cluster care, you do as much at one time as you can. So you spend the least amount of time exposing yourself to whatever it is, you know, and then you throw them away. You get a new one the next time you go in, and that's not the, the case anymore. That's not the case anymore. You know what I mean? We're reusing masks and there's no need to wear makeup anymore because you're just making 'em dirtier. . So it's just so different. Like, healthcare has changed so much for me in the last year. I still love it. I still wouldn't be doing anything different. I'm grateful the skill set that I have, but I feel like, I feel like certain things are never gonna go back to the way they were before. I think the next time we have a TB patient, they won't care if we reuse our N95s anymore, you know, so.

Clarence Fisher: Oh, wow. Do you think that I, you know, I don't think that we probably would've even taken the precautions, which is crazy. I, as much as I watch these numbers, I don't know that I would have taken even the precautions that I took if I had not been overweight with comorbidities.

Joy Tillman: Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: But even hearing you speak, it's like this crapshoot of how, who dies, who, who get, who only gets sick, who doesn't show any symptoms, you know, like there's like this, but one thing that I did see, and I don't know if it's true or not was that being obese is a major issue.

Joy Tillman: Yes. Yeah.

Clarence Fisher: Okay.

Joy Tillman: Yeah. For, for sure. The maj and I, and I don't want it to sound like just super healthy people were, were not making it through because the majority were, and the majority of people that died were obese. That was one of the biggest factors was obesity, but obesity also is one of the biggest factors to that predisposes you to diabetes and high blood pressure and high cholesterol. And so other comorbidities that also made having COVID worse. Right? Surprisingly it wasn't my like C O P D and asthma patients that I felt like were really getting hard, hit hard with COVID. It was your obese patients, your diabetics, those were the ones who really seemed to be having the hardest time with it. I expected everybody that came through and okay, they're in with COVID pneumonia, they've got a history of C O P D asthma, other breathing problems, lung problems.

Joy Tillman: And it just wasn't the case. And so it was these people with diabetes, not well controlled, these obese people. And then people's kidneys were taking a hard hit, and these people are on dialysis, you know, and, and things like that, you know, and having other, like having heart damage now. So that's the thing. A lot of people, there are tons of people that recovered, but there are a lot of people that have recovered that have all these other issues now, you know, that they didn't have before and obesity, diabetes. That's a high indicator that you could end up with some kidney disease and end up on dialysis. Same thing with when your blood pressure's high. It can cause kidney issues, you know, and other things like that and heart issues, you're at a higher risk for stroke. We saw weird clotting things with people with COVID that you wouldn't expect. They were more predisposed to blood clots and things like that.

Clarence Fisher: Mm-hmm .

Joy Tillman: And so was it the COVID on top of all their comorbidities? Was it the, was like, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I, I don't know. It was almost like, it just kind of made everything worse, everything that was wrong with them, it made it worse.

Clarence Fisher: So do you think that, I mean, just in my mind, in my personal mind, like, it's just, it's been this, this, what can I say? This motivation even more so, because you said something you just said just rocked me was we're not going to see our last COVID patient.

Clarence Fisher: And I thought, ah exactly. Which is why I'm like, okay, if there's ever been a, a time to at least get out of obese range, maybe this is it.

Joy Tillman: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, obesity and being overweight is such, it's just gotten worse and worse and worse. It continues to get worse in America. And it is, and though it's hard, it is a modifiable risk factor. You have modifiable risk factors, things that you can do something about like your weight, smoking, diet exercise, those are things you can control. And then you have things you can control, like a family history of heart disease. You know, African Americans are more predisposed to high blood pressure and diabetes and high blood pressure's harder to treat in African Americans. And those are just, those are just facts that we know and African American males. So, I mean, if there was ever a time for people to really wake up about their, their diet, their exercise, and even just losing a little bit of weight, I mean, you know, they've said 10% of weight can make such a huge impact on your health with your blood sugar, your glycemic control, your blood pressure.

Joy Tillman: All of those things can be improved with just a small amount of weight loss when you think about it. And so I think for most people, the best thing to do is to set a small goal, hit that goal, maintain at that goal for a little bit, and then set your next goal. And, you know, kind of like come up with the plan of action to hit that next goal so that you can be as healthy as possible. And that's one of the things that I told my friends, you know, I had friends that were like, what should we do? And I was like, listen, I'm not through this whole pandemic. I'm I was never someone who was like, lock everything down and quit living your life. I mean, yes, we needed to stay home as much as possible, but I'm like live, live your life as safely as possible, eat healthy exercise, take your vitamins.

Joy Tillman: The other thing that the majority of, Americans are, is vitamin D deficient. And that was something we were seeing, you know, like everybody's vitamin D deficient. And that seemed like, so we would throw people with COVID on vitamin D vitamin C, zinc melatonin for some reason was helpful. Melatonin is a sleep aid, your body naturally makes it, but some people take a little bit to help them sleep at night. It had some anti-inflammatory effects with COVID for some reason, I read the studies, but I don't remember the reasoning as to why they were saying it had the anti-inflammatory effects. So that's what I would recommend to my friends or the friends that got it. I'm like, you know, and who weren't sick enough to go to the hospital. I was like, you know, do this, take your vitamins, eat healthy, rest, deep breathing, blah, blah, blah, all of that good stuff, you know, but I think now more than ever, if this isn't a wake up call, I really don't know what is because, you know, I mean, when you're overweight, you're at a higher risk for everything from stroke, heart disease.

Joy Tillman: It's, it's hard on every part of your body to carry the extra weight and it's hard to lose it. I get it. I've struggled. I have struggled my entire adult life. I like, I we've talked as we've talked about this hour, I've done it all healthy and unhealthy to try to lose weight. And I do believe that you can be overweight and still be healthy, but the closer you can get to a healthy weight, buy a blood pressure monitor. You know what I mean? They're 20 or 30 bucks monitor your blood pressure. Know these numbers, you know, know what your, not just your BMI is, but know what your body fat percentage is, as opposed to your, you know, your muscle mass, know the ratios there if you can. I just bought a scale off of Amazon that I think is pretty accurate. It was 30 bucks and it measures your BMI, your body fat percentage, your bone density, like 13 different indicators of not just your weight.

Joy Tillman: And I have a blood pressure monitor and I keep an eye on my blood pressure, go to your doctor, get A1C strawn. If you are worried about diabetes. So you know what your numbers are, you know what I mean? Just do what you can to keep yourself as healthy as you can, because whether it's COVID or whether it's the flu or whatever it is, if you can start at a healthier place, you have a better, if you get cancer and you're healthier, when you get cancer, as opposed to unhealthy, you have a better chance of coming out successful and your quality of life, your quality of life is better if you're not having to take a million medications and you don't just feel bad all the time.

Clarence Fisher: Hmm, man. That's good. So like, I was gonna ask you, you know, about the tools and all that stuff, you know, kind of wrapping up that's that's man. That's perfect. Thank you for sharing all that stuff. So as we, as you go forward, what are your, your plans like as, as you're cause keeping it off is to me, I imagine is going to be even harder.

Joy Tillman: Well, my plan is to get back on track, to lose this last bit of weight that I wanna lose. I am, COVID is slowing down. I'm very happy for that. The need is not as great as it was. So the place that I'm on contract right now, that contract actually ended last week. And I was like, okay, applying for jobs back home, I was gonna just stay home and get back on my routine of going to the gym every day and cooking at home and meal planning and everything mm-hmm but they are desperate. Just they're just in need of nurses. They just don't have staff right now. So they've asked me to stay. So I'm staying there for 12 weeks. The contract that I was on was four nights a week. So I was working 48 hours a week minimum. Sometimes more. Usually I picked up a couple extra shifts every now and then when they needed it and was working 60 hours, I told them, I said, I need a week off to catch up with life.

Joy Tillman: And so, and then when I come back, I'm only doing three days a week. I can't commit to four days a week. So it starts with that. It starts with you, if you say yes to something you've said no to something else, you only have so much time, so much energy, so much money. You only have so many resources to give in any 24 hour period. So every time you say yes to something, you're saying no to something else, so that yes needs to really matter. Like I said, I'm, this year has been good in a lot of ways. I've been able to be in a good place financially better than I've been since I've been divorced. And so now that I've kind of set myself up in financially, well, now I need to get back to taking care of myself.

Joy Tillman: I feel like, you know, one of the things I had a lot of mom guilt from being away so long, cuz I mean, my kids are 15, 17 and 19. So they're perfectly capable of being home a few nights a week while I'm gone. And I was in and out and their dad and their brother are nearby, but the 19 and the 15 year old are doing all the grocery shopping. So there's a bunch of just snacks in the house. so, and I was, I felt guilty about just not being home, but what I have seen in the past year is all of their relationships have improved because they couldn't get out and hang out with friends. And so they've got, I see their relationships blossom being, and being good friends and really caring about each other and having each other's back.

Joy Tillman: I feel like we have gotten stronger as a family unit, financially we're in a better place. And so now it's like I gotta get back on track with my personal health and taking care of me. I made the decision to go back to school this year. And so with school full time working full time and being away from home as much as I have, it was rough. And so now I'm like, it's time to slow back down and to take my physical, personal health off the back burner. Because like I said, I can have it all, but man, it's really hard to do it all at the same time. So my plan is to manage my time better, say no to some things so that I can set start saying yes to me. I know what I need to do nutrition wise. So I'm gonna, we're gonna get back on track as a family and start eating better and cooking at home and, and that sort of thing.

Joy Tillman: And I'm so I, I need to get back in the gym. I miss it. I enjoy, I don't like, like cardio and Zumba and all those, all those classes I like to go and I like to lift and I like to be strong. I like to know that if my patient needs me to move them, I can move them. You know? And so that's probably the only thing that's kept my muscles from atrophying this last year is how much, how much turning and pulling up of patients I've had to do. But yeah, so my plan is to get my nutrition on track. And one of the things that I believe is you can't, I mean, you know, I'm not gonna deny myself, but I just want to, I just wanna make a plan. I just wanna have a plan for things, you know, and if I'm going to go out with friends, that's not gonna be a big deal, you know, but I don't wanna do it every night. We can't eat pizza and eat out every single night we can eat out every now and then, but for the most part, we need to have a plan in place for nutrition, a plan in place to make time in my day for the gym or just going on a walk. So it's about just saying yes to myself and putting myself back in the position that I deserve and that I need to be in.

Clarence Fisher: Hmm. Yeah. Thank you. I've got, so thank you for sharing all this today. I've got so many notes and then, and things that I wanna revisit as, I listen back to it. Do you have any final kind of words or wisdoms that you'd like to pass on to everybody who's listening right now?

Joy Tillman: I think the only thing that you can do is I used to reiterate that whole, I know that for me, the biggest struggle is my, is my mind and getting my mind in the right place. You know, I kind of touched on the fact that I have struggled with depression. I've struggled with loving myself. And like I said, you cannot like, it's so hard. You can't, you can't work on a relationship with another person that you hate. You know, if you hate someone, you're not gonna work on that relationship with them, you're gonna just write 'em off and be done with them. And so this journey of self love and self-acceptance, and self-esteem, and just taking care of yourself, it really does have to come from a place of love. I still struggle with that. I still struggle with my self-worth.

Joy Tillman: Do I, am I do I deserve it? Am I worth it? I know in my head, like we talked about, I've got the head knowledge, I've done the work. I know that I deserve this. I know that I'm worth it. I know that I have so much more to me than the number on the scale as a human being, as a mother, as a nurse, I have so much more to me than the numbers that I see. And so my self worth has to be tied to the knowledge that I have about me, not the way that I'm feeling, because our feelings skew our reality and what we think and believe and feel is what our reality is. Even if it's not the same reality that somebody else is living. So we have to keep those things in check. We have to keep our feelings in check and we have to stem off the knowledge that we have and whether that's writing it out, whether that's having mantras that you say to yourself on a regular basis, notes on your bathroom mirror, whatever it is that you need, you have to figure that out because you've got to come from a place from love.

Joy Tillman: So that way, if you, you can't hate yourself better, you've got to love yourself better. So

Clarence Fisher: Love it. And joy. Thank you again for taking the time and sharing your story and you know, helping me and everybody else get there. I enjoy the, the support you give us in the group. And of course I'll reach out and ask you more. more stuff there as it comes to my mind, but thank you very much.

Joy Tillman: Oh, you're welcome. It's a journey. I think we're relational beings and it's very, very hard to make it through this life journey, no matter what your struggles are without a group of people around you.

Joy Tillman: Thank you joy and thank you for listening. Thanks for tuning in. I appreciate you so much. Go and please subscribe to the show. And if you have time, head over to iTunes, leave us a rating and review. Next week, we're gonna dive deeper into the gastric bypass process with Sarah Teague from Teel Tough Fitness. She's also a long time friend. So it got crazy.

Clarence Fisher: You were 275 pounds at 14.

Sarah Teague: At four 14. Yeah. So as actual grown adult, when I started my weight loss journey, I was 325 pounds.

Clarence Fisher: Wow.

Sarah Teague: Oh yeah. And I'm 5 11" to give context.

Clarence Fisher: Okay. All right.

Sarah Teague: Awesome. Not like 6 5".

Clarence Fisher:

Sarah Teague: Might have been better if I was 6 5". I'm where I need to be now. But back then. Woo

Clarence Fisher: Right, right, right.

Sarah Teague: That was a lot. It was a lot to think about.

Clarence Fisher: I can't wait to share the next episode with you next week until then go to 100poundparty.com and join the free newsletter for more tips and strategies on how to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good. If you loved this episode, take a screenshot, share it on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn tag me Clarence Fisher to use a #100poundparty and subscribe to apple podcast. Well, that's it for this episode until next time, remember slight right to success. Make it fun, make it easy. Celebrate often, and you'll win.

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Clarence Fisher: What is that? What is that? Welcome to the inaugural? The inaugural. I shouldn't even say that I can't even spell that. Welcome to the first episode of 100 Pound Party, the 100 Pound Party podcast. In this episode, this I want, I, can I say it Niro, wanna say that. In this episode, I'm going to go over what you can expect from me and my team as we launch this new podcast and we have no idea what's going to be, yeah, we do. We know what it's going to be about. We're gonna uncover the tools, tactics and strategies used daily by people like us to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good beyond that. I'm going to give you three specific things you can do right now to help, help you stay motivated and get the support you need and the results you want. And lastly, I'm going to share with you the method that I've been using for years to help me lose I've lost 111 pounds, still going and it's all free and that method is free, right? So all of this stuff today is free. Okay. I'll say today as a , all of this is free. So click subscribe, put it in your pocket and stick around, uh, because this is your invitation to the podcast.

Intro: Welcome to the 100 Pound Party podcast with Big Juice, uncovering weight loss, tips, tools, and strategies used by everyday people to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good.

Clarence Fisher: All right. Welcome back to the party. What I, what I, what up is Clarence Big Juice Fisher. And like I said before, welcome to the 100 Pound Party. So glad that you hear you're here and please bear with me. I have no idea. Really. Well, I can't say that I have an idea of what we're going to do at the 100 Pound Party, but it is a work in progress. So you are here at the very, very, very beginning. And I'll tell you what kicked this whole thing off is wanting to hear from real people because of what has happened in my life. I'll tell you a quick story. It was it. I be, it was June and I had spent, I was at a marketing conference. Okay. Had been at this conference for three days and here it was on Saturday.

Clarence Fisher: The very last day of the conference, I had made it all weekend long, without so much as partaking of a chocolate chip of anything carb related. I would had done well. I had prepared myself. In fact that January, January 1st, you know where I'm going January 1st, I told myself along with a couple of other people that we were going to go one year without sugar. And when I say one year without sugar, I don't mean I don't mean the usual stuff. KitKat, you know, ice cream, all of that stuff. Of course, you're not going without that. I'm talk about sugar, sugar, like no sugar. If I picked up a package and it said it had sugar, or any of the other 3000 words, names for sugar, that is, that is not sugar, but actually sugar. If it had any of that, uh, I didn't eat it.

Clarence Fisher: Matter of fact, there were only, I know, I know you're like there were only three things that I could eat. It, it was eggs, beans. And I did find out that cheddar cheese does not have sugar in real cheddar cheese, craft singles is not chatter cheese. Okay. But real cheddar cheese does not have sugar in it. So I could have a bit of cheese on it. And I lost 60 pounds in six months, so I was going without sugar. Can you imagine being at a conference and going, but I did it and it got to this very last break. It really tripped me out. Cause they would like pass. It's like they passed snacks down the aisle, like a church plate. And it was just super hard to ignore, but I, I did it, got to this last break.

Clarence Fisher: I remember it was the last day, the absolute last break we're going out and in the hallway I saw across the hall, a big plate as, as a tray actually of kryptonite. Um, okay. It wasn't like Superman's kryptonite. It was my kryptonite. There was a huge plate. I keep saying a plate. This is, this is . This will tell you how I thought about it. It was a plate it was a platter. right. It was, it was a big tray. It was a big tray. But I keep saying a plate cuz that's the way that I looked at it of cheesecake. Now, if you can imagine the doors swing open for the break. People are piling out. I am in the middle of these double doors. Just looking people are like bumping into me. Uh, Hey man, what? And I'm just standing there still looking at this tray, the lights dim in the whole hotel lobby. And then there's just this spotlight on the tray and on me.

Clarence Fisher: And I felt myself begin to levitate and float toward the tray. My mind's telling me no, I can't see, but you, you get it. And the next thing I knew, I had a piece of cheesecake in and both hands and I was stuffing cheesecake into my pockets and I looked up and I just started running down a hall. I just ah, ran down the hall. I found a cubby hall. I duck on the side of the corner and I'm just eating cheesecake. And theres cherry juice dripping down my jowls . And I was so disgusted. I called my wife. I was like, you can't believe what I did. Please come get me, please come pick me, come pick me up. so she did. And we were staying and we were in Texas. We were staying at a friend of ours Mindy's and on the way there, uh, you know, my wife's like, well, what are you gonna do? And I'm like, well, I'm going to five guys. I mean, , I'm gonna do everything I hadn't done in six months. And so we did that and you know, it was supposed to be, you know, you're not supposed to fall off the wagon and stay off the wagon, but I did and I ate and I ate and I ate and I ate and I ate for months until I looked down and I was back over 330 pounds. My goodness. I was so frustrated, you know how it goes.

Clarence Fisher: So I thought I need help. I know you're you figured that out, right? You kind of figured that out the first minute of this podcast, you're like, just do needs help, but I need help. So I thought there's probably other people who need help too. And I started this podcast, this Facebook group called 100 Pound Party with the idea of throwing myself a massive party after I lost 100 pounds in a calendar year, that was the whole point is to lose a hundred pounds in a calendar year. And I started the Facebook group for and put a whole bunch of people in there, which was so crazy. I am sorry for the first people that got thrown in the 100 Pound Party group, cuz they're that I know. And can you imagine, you're going about your business on Facebook and then you just get dropped into this a 100 Pound Party Facebook group and it's like, Hey, you seem like you might need help.

Clarence Fisher: you know what I'm saying? I'll help you and you help me. And you're like, Hey man, jerk. I didn't ask to be put in here. Uh, so I'm, I'm sorry for the beginning people, but some people stayed and then they started bringing other people because I was, I was keeping it real about what I was going through and other people could relate. And so we started this 100 Pound Party Facebook group and long story short. I, um, what, when was it? It was August 15th, 2021. This was last year. Ooh. It's almost been a year that, um, I ended up losing 100 pounds. This was over five years after starting the group. I ended up losing 100 pounds and uh, and celebrating. So we hit it. Right. And I wasn't the first to lose a hundred pounds in the group actually.

Clarence Fisher: Joy Tillman is Tillman her last name? Joy. Is that your last name? Joy was the first to lose and I'm actually, we've had an interview with her coming up next. Okay. About what she did to lose a hundred pounds, but I did lose a hundred pounds and I got this message from a guy that I'm gonna read this to you cuz it was super duper cool. I got this message from a guy named Chris and Chris messaged me. I don't know Chris. I still don't know Chris, but he said, hi Clarence, you don't know me, but I am hosting my 100 Pound Party today. He put my hashtag 100 Pound Party. I clicked on the hashtag a few months back to see who was using it and saw your name pop up from 2014 and 2015. This is that's how long I was hashtag 100 hundred pounding, 100 Pound partying it.

Clarence Fisher: He says, imagine my surprise. When I clicked on the hashtag today, the day of the party of his, of his party to see your most recent post and my most recent post was I just hit a hundred pounds. That was the most, my most recent post. And so he's about to hit his he's having his party. He goes on. I just wanted to reach out and say, congratulations on your journey so far. From my own experience, I know the work that goes into the 100 pound transformation. And I can only believe that you have learned so much about yourself in the process. I have Chris. No idea. Well actually you do understand anyways, he closes. I apologize if this message is strange, but it's been cool to see someone else celebrating the same victories. Keep getting it, take care, Chris, Chris, I am getting it and you keep getting it too.

Clarence Fisher: Thank you so much Chris made my day. And so when that happened, I thought, you know what? This is, you know, do I wanna say my calling? Yeah, I do. I wanna, I do. It's super important to me. I mean, I wanna help 1.5 million people lose 100 pounds or more. That is the goal. 1.5 million people lose 100 pounds or more. And how are we gonna do that? We're gonna do that with this podcast. We're gonna do that with the free newsletter. Oh, by the way, go to 100poundparty.com. And there, this is part of those three ways that you can get the help and get results is one, is this podcast. So subscribe don't necessarily rate it yet because this first episode is not representative of what we, what we wanna do. Wait until you, you know, we get a couple of episodes down the line and you're like, you know what?

Clarence Fisher: I really like this. I really like this, then rate it. Okay. But subscribe to the podcast. This is free for you. Go in to 100poundparty.com. Put your email address in there. We've got a free report for you that you're gonna get select the seven motivation, at least right now, the seven motivation tricks that actually work to keep you motivated so that you can lose your a hundred pounds or more and keep it off for good. And then you'll also be subscribed to the free 100 Pound Party newsletter. Okay. I think at some point we may add a paid version to it, just so you know. Uh, but there's always gonna be that free version where this is the way we're starting it. Okay. 1.5 million people. Uh, oh, and then you can also join the Facebook group. If you join the newsletter, it's going to ask you if you wanted to join the Facebook group as well, because that's what kicked this whole thing off.

Clarence Fisher: So all of it's free. If you're gonna help 1.5 million people, you it's gotta be free. Right? You gotta have that freeness to it. So, um, and what it's about, it's help, it's getting this real story of real people. I mean, you know, we see the before and the afters and somebody lost 12,000 pounds in 30 days and, and they're like, well, you can do it too. Click this link and buy my stuff. you know what I'm saying? I would really like to have interviews with people who have lost 100 pounds or more that can actually share with you what happened. Cause I don't think people tell the I'm not gonna say they're not telling the truth, but I mean, there is some real ugliness that happens. You know, if you, you know, I was tell my wife this last night, like people act like they've never dug anything out of the trash the next day.

Clarence Fisher: You know what I'm like, act like you've never set those tortilla chips down and then picked that bag up the next day. So like crush 'em then that's how you learn. You gotta crush 'em. If you're having that cheat meal, you gotta crush 'em and then if you really wanna be, you know, super sure pour 'em out in the, in the trash and, and just shake the trash a little bit, you know what I'm saying? That was ugly. Right? That was ugly. I can't even believe I just told you that, but that's real that's I promise you that's this is the stuff we're gonna talk about and then how to get over it, how to get over it. Because my vices are not necessarily your vices and yours aren't necessarily mine. I mean, you could have heard that thing that right there and been like, oh my goodness, you have problems.

Clarence Fisher: I'm definitely tuning into this. Right. Well, you know, it's fine. So where, where I'm at? I'm I don't wanna be just babbling, but anyway, I lost a hundred pounds and go to 100poundparty.com sign up. All right. I got that message from Chris. And then at about 111 pounds, you know what happens? I started slipping and sliding. I got over my cheesecake. I can't no, no, no, no. I'm not gonna say I'm always recovering from cheesecake addiction so much so that I don't allow cheesecake in the house. Right. And so if, we're ever having a party, if you're ever come over here, please do not bring cheesecake. You will be turned right around. Okay. But what I have started doing, or I did start doing was I got started. I'm gonna say hooked. I'm starting to get hooked on these, these almond clusters at Sprouts.

Clarence Fisher: Like I would say, Hey, I gotta go to Sprouts to get a crown of broccoli and I would walk out with a bag of all chocolate covered Almond clusters. And then I would make excuses. You know what I'm saying? It's it's that it is that addict, you know, I would make excuses, meaning to go to the Farmer's market so that I could get almond clusters. And I found myself, you know, that familiar kind of helplessness, which is really weird. That's another thing that I think we can all relate to this, this weird feeling of helplessness. You may be the bomb at strong, the boss at every other aspect of your life. But there's this helplessness that kind of jumps up sometimes that I can't stop myself. And so I post it in the 100 Pound Party, Facebook group, a and I spelled it out A A R G H ARG, quite literal.

Clarence Fisher: I can't help myself. is what I put. I am slipping, I'm sliding. And one of our fabulous members reached out Nicole Jackson, Ferguson. She said, keep added brother, exclamation, exclamation. You've been so encouraging to so many with this page, meaning the group and your candor. Because one thing I want to do is always keep it real, right? She said, I am 12 pounds away from 100 pound loss since 12, 3, 2020, keep bleeding the way my goodness. How can you keep stuff in your face? When you hear something like that? You can't, and it made me quit. And so this is what I'm talking about. This is what I want for you is this support, this type of support, where you can say, Hey, this is what I'm facing, who has overcome that? What are some ways that I can overcome that this thing is just so freaking tough.

Clarence Fisher: And then when you lose the weight, the hard, hard, hard, hard, hard part. They don't tell you it's keeping it off, but you know that, but you know that, right? So that's what this is for really selfishly it's so that I can interview people who have lost a hundred pounds or more. And how the heck are you keeping it off? How can I not gain this stuff back again? I'm tired of gaining. I'm tired of losing it. I'm getting too old for this. Uh, but then also I'm gonna share with you because I'm a learner. I, man, I learned so much stuff and I purchased so much stuff as you probably do and I want to share it all with you what's working, what's not, especially, and the last thing I'm gonna share with you on this final on this, this better not be the final episode.

Clarence Fisher: the first was like, you know, he had one episode all right. So on this first episode, the last thing I'm gonna share with you on this first episode, because this was not supposed to be a long episode is the method that I used and I told you in the intro that it was going to be absolutely free. And we're gonna go the deeper into this as we go along. And then for sure, in the email newsletter, knows I keep saying the email newsletter 100poundparty.com, is the slight right method. And the slight right method is a method that I coined for sure, seriously. And all it is is taking slight rights. We know where we need to go. Let's just take a super slight right. A tiny habit. Let's build a tiny habit. And when I say tiny, I mean like the smallest imperceptible move in that direction, for instance, at 330 something pounds, I was like, I need to start walking.

Clarence Fisher: Right. Because I feel like I might not wake up tomorrow. So if I do wake up tomorrow, I'm going to start walking, but I'm not about to run a marathon. So what did I do? I got up and I was like, I can make it to the mailbox. Okay. Did that? I can make it to the end of the driveway. The next day did that. Yes. When I said the mailbox, I meant the mailbox that's on the side of the front door. you know what I'm saying? Like get up, go outside. Okay. That was the first day. Now you can go back in the house second day, get up, go to the end of the driveway. Made it woo. Go back to the house. All right. Get up the next day, go to the driveway, make a right. Go to the end of your yard.

Clarence Fisher: Go back. This is what I'm saying in my mind, I was like, there is a park, Two, let's see two blocks, Oh down the street from our house. At that time, if I can make it down there and walk around, you know, that'll be the place where I start doing my transformation and become Carl Lewis, but I gotta get there. And the only way that I knew was I could at least do something. So that next day or whatever I made it to the end of my neighbor's house. Then I made attend to the neighbor next to him. Finally, I made it to the park. Actually. I made it to the parking lot of the park and went back home. Then, you know, it's really funny. I made it to the actual track, touch the track, went back home. I'll tell you a story. One time I was walking, I finally had got to the track and I walked one.

Clarence Fisher: And uh, then I would do one lap in a tree, you know, that tree down there. And finally, one of the older ladies that was there, you know, you start meeting people up the track. And she was walking next to me and she said, you know, you really should do more than one lap. And you know, I was like, you know what? You know what, you know what? You don't know me. You don't know my you don't know my story. you know what I'm saying? I mean, she was true. I, she was right. I mean, I've tried to do that, but you know, some people just need to mind their business. So, um, but, uh, I did, I did end up doing more than one, more than one lap. And we moved 2008, happened all kind of craziness, ended up like getting out of the house and selling everything.

Clarence Fisher: We ended up in this one bedroom apartment and I fell off depressed, all this stuff. You know how it goes, fell off my routine. And one day there, I always get back. The way that I get back into the routine is I feel like I'm suffocating and I'm not gonna wake up the next day. You know, I always get back up to like three something. And then I was like, I gotta start walking again. So what did I do? Exact same thing. Get back. We were on the second floor, get down to the steps, get back. I would go to the weight room, the workout room. I'd walk five minutes and go back upstairs. . Now, if you thought that lady was, was looking at me, judgemental, you should have saw the people in the, uh, workout room that would see me come down.

Clarence Fisher: And this time I would do it for a whole week. Like I would walk five minutes and go, go home. And then the next day, five minutes go home. Like I would do that for a week. And then I'd add another five minutes. So the people that were there every morning that would see me come in and walk five minutes or five minutes, walk, walk, go home. Right. They're like, he is not ever gonna make it, but now I'm running 5Ks. So, uh, there you go. So that was the slight right method. And we added to that. I was having lunch. If you get on the newsletter, there it is again, 100poundparty.com. Uh, I'll tell, I tell this story about having lunch with a very good friend of mine, Lori Montag, who was losing weight very consistently, consistently. I think that's where, yeah.

Clarence Fisher: Yeah. While, while I wasn't, I was losing 60 pounds and I gain back 90 lose 40 gain back 80, you know, just doing these really intense programs. And she was like, you know what, you're doing way too much. I just plan on losing two pounds a month. And I was like, man, see, and you don't know Lori, like Lori's a boss, like, like, like really super looked up to her for a long time. Like she makes stuff happen yet she was like, I just, I'm just trying to lose two pounds a month. And I'm like, man, whatever. Well, it stuck with me and I thought, huh, if I only expect to lose two pounds a month and then I make these slight rights, then they gives me a whole month to try to figure it out and, and have a net, you know, I can gain and lose and kind of fail at it a little bit and just have a two pound net loss, which a two pound net loss is actually pretty difficult, to keep it off month after month after month.

Clarence Fisher: And, um, you know, I would have failures and successes, but at the end of the year, I'd lose 24, 25 pounds. And this is so crazy. So I sat back and I thought, if I could do that four years in a row, I've got a hundred pounds there. And that's exactly what I did. And that's how I lost a hundred pounds. So I'm gonna share with you all those little slight rise that I did and all of that. And most importantly, uh, the interviews of other people who have done this successfully and hopefully can, we can glean some insight together on how to keep it off. So that's it, this is the first episode. It was not supposed to go this long, but you know, hopefully we can have some fun and, uh, yeah, some have some fun while we do that. So 100 Pound Party Podcast where we're gonna uncover the tools, tactics, strategies used daily by people like you and me to lose 100 pounds or more and keep it off for good. I'll see you next week. Oh, go to 100poundparty.com and sign up for the email newsletter.